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Name: Hayseed

Comments: AS daburto has noted; The Prophets have spoken.

Until that changes I will keep my guns out of church unless prompted by the spirit.

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Liberal bloggers went ballistic over Glenn's passing comment on TV last week, when he mentioned he brought his gun with him to the movies and didn't shoot anyone. Yet another example of the disconnect Washington DC, New York and other liberal havens have with reality. They just cannot understand the need for guns and think anyone who has one will end up killing someone. Glenn reacts to the liberal reaction. Ref. Source 8

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Name: Rich

Comments: I live in Bakersfield, CA. I attend church in the East stake. I carry a gun everywhere I go.. I do have my concealed weapons permit and carry my gun even to church. No one knows its there, so its not hurting anyone.

Lets say a person outside of church, after our meetings are out has committed a crime where firearms are needed. I am prepared to make an arrest.

Please don't take this wrong.. I love the church, and I love my 2nd amendment.

The fact is there are people who are "bad" in this world, and some of us will defend the innocent.

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I will follow the words of the prophet, for sure. But there may be a time, in the not too distant future that we will be allowed to carry concealed weapons (with a legal permit of course,) in LDS buildings, save the Temple, which already has security. Wickedness will at some point probably become a problem to the point to where we might petition the church to allow us to take precautions to protect our family. Those who flatly say "no guns at church" probably have never lived in an area where violence is normal. Attend Church in parts of Mexico, Africa or somewhere that violence is an everyday thing or where members of the church are targeted for ransoms and you may think otherwise. Also, the divide over such things as Homosexuality will increase the need for security. I am OK if the Church wants to continue to prohibit guns on Church properties if they have professional security nearby. I think of such figures as Porter Rockwell, who were all but ordered to protect the prophet, etc. Sundays were not an exception, so I guess it depends on the times, conditions. Things are changing that will influence the Lords policies as they have done in the past. I have a Concealed Weapons Permit and will use it if/when the Church changes it's rules. The persons who's life will be saved in the event of uninvited violence, will be thankful, as was the people in that Baptist church 2 years ago where a security (woman) took out that gunman that attacked people at random.

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For me this is simple folks you know what am I saying? If you live in a dangerous area then I think you have all the right to take your liscenced gun at church and at any place you may wish to attend.

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I think it's a difficult question. I'm very "pro-carry" and I carry a firearm most places except work because our policy forbids it, and to church because it's a) illegal because I was raised to never bring weapons to church.

I agree firearms are great and necessary. But in church? I personally don't feel it's appropriate, but I don't think we should prohibit anybody from doing it. I want to become a law enforcement officer, but I don't know if I would take my duty weapon to church even if my department made me to (I mean, some departments "force you" to always carry arms, but I mean, I can't quite picture someone in temple garments during the endowment with a gun on the hip...)

By the way, I don't think that when Christ told his disciples not to protect him with their weapons has anything to do with it being wrong to defend oneself with weapons. Christ HAD TO BE ARRESTED in order to fulfill the prophecies and make the ultimate sacrifice. Defending Him with or without weapons and possible preventing His arrest was the problem, because that would've hindered Him from being crucified. In my humble opinion.

Should we be counseled to be armed at church for security reasons, then I would carry my firearm to church as well. Otherwise, I don't think so.

PS: It doesn't matter whether or not one is licensed to carry for carrying at church. Church grounds such as temples, meetinghouses etc. Are private property, and as long as the property owner tells you you can carry, you can carry loaded unloaded, open and concealed, regardless of state law. State carry laws only count to public places (and depending on state may or may not include your car).

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Do you need to be counseled on this too? You mentioned you want to become a cop, listen if you want to do it then you WILL have to carry a gun everywhere you go so you can protect others and yourself you know what am I saying? There were a couple of cases already of people entering chapels and shooting someone.

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Yes, I do and I don't know what you're saying and do not agree with it. Because my religious beliefs make me feel it is not right, and unless a religious authority or the Spirit of the Lord tells me otherwise I do not feel it is appropriate and I will not violate my religious belief for the sake of some government official. I will not compromise my religion, and I don't care if someone counsels or "orders" me to do so. I'd rather go to jail than violate my religious beliefs. My body may be hurt or imprisoned, but my soul is free in Christ.

Christ has counseled people not to take swords with them on one occasion, and on another he counseled us to be armed. The church currently counsels against it, and when I think about it I feel the Spirit telling me not to. The latter ends all questions for me. Remember, I never stated people should be prosecuted as criminals for doing so. I just said it is my personal belief that it is not right, and my personal belief happens to be substantiated by the current church authorities. That's all. I specifically said we shouldn't prohibit anybody from doing it, so if you want to be armed, knock yourself out. I don't care. You do what you feel is right, I do what I feel is right. This whole matter in my opinion is one of policy and personal preference, and no reason to preach to anybody for one or the other.

Rather off topic, but...

By the way, in most cases guns being used by a cop to protect others results in a lawsuit or claim or some sort of investigation against the officer since it's no longer considered an appropriate use of force unless death to the officer or a bystander is imminent unless the suspected perpetrator is killed. Remember, cops don't shoot to disable, but to kill. And courts have screwed cops tons of time on their use of arms (which I find ridiculous by the way, but is completely off topic.