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Related Information to Real DruidsPost Date: 9th Feb, 2008 - 12:39am / Post ID: #
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| What about the group of Druids that see Jesus as a Druid and even think that Jesus had many Druid teachings now corrupted by society. Are they a branch of Druids or are they merely porting the name for popularity? |
Which group? Do you have a link to a website for them or contact information.
There are quite a few tales that encorporate elements of Jesus into them in connection with the Celts and Druids;
* St Patrick declared "Christ is my Druid"
* The Chalice Well at Glastonbury Tor is said to be where Joseph hid the Grail from the Last Supper.
* When Joseph landed on the island of Avalon, he set foot on Wearyall Hill - just below the Tor. Exhausted, he thrust his staff into the ground, and rested. By morning, his staff had taken root - leaving a strange oriental thorn bush-the sacred Glastonbury Thorn.
* Joseph being a tin merchant, in some reports, could have had dealings with the tin mines in Britain, thereby knowing of the Druids and possibly having his "step-son" come into contact with the Druids...perhaps even having some teaching by them.
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Tully I sent you the link via your Email because it has an unnecessary picture on it that quite frankly I am surprised is there. I mean I understand the 'naturalness' these Drudis are portraying, but it does not have to be shown like that. You can respond here.
Post Date: 9th Feb, 2008 - 3:54am / Post ID: #
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JB, I completely understand why you chose to not post said link! 
In earnest, I'm not exactly sure that the particular group represented by that link is indeed part of that larger organization. It just doesn't seem to fit with their actual work, which is quite charitable...and VERY non-sectarian.
The larger Organization has it's roots in the Victorian "Druid Revival" era spawned by John Toland and William Stuckely in the early 1700's, as does the AODA to which I belong, and was modeled after Freemasonry using what was known at the time about Ancient Druids as a "guide".
I have sent you a reply e-mail with some better links on that organization.
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Actually, given the hosting policy of that particular free server I am surprised that image is there! Should we start a Thread then about Mason Druids or is still relevant to this Thread?
| Rather off topic, but... We have a number of Threads here about Masons, if you are a Mason it will be great if you could address them, especially since the open release of the Freemason ceremony shown on National Geographic. Thanks. |
Post Date: 10th Feb, 2008 - 12:05am / Post ID: #
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Not necessary to start a new thread regarding the Masonic-Druid connection, it's entirely pertinent here. Granted, some may disagree, but this branch of Druidry can fully claim to trace it's origins...specifically to the Covent Gardens Apple Tree Tavern in the year 1717. Although I've encountered individuals that will claim they can trace an unbroken lineage or teachings back to Ancient Druids, I find this highly skeptic.
This is a November 2004 posting at the AODA's discussion board by Grand Archdruid John Michael Greer, posted here with his permission, on why the AODA uses the term "Druid", a bit about the 18th century Druid Revival and about "authentic" Druids;
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| Greetings all, I'm told that some of our members on another list have again come under fire from a small faction of self-described "authentic Pagan Celts" who insist they have the exclusive right to say who is or is not allowed to use the word "Druid." Of course those of us in the Druid Revival tradition need not apply! The listowner, to his credit, closed the topic, but AODA members should be aware that this kind of nonsense shows up elsewhere on the net. That being the case, I thought it might be of interest to talk a little bit about why we use the word, and what we do and don't mean by it. The founders of the Druid Revival in the 18th century sought to craft a spirituality of a sort the Western world hadn't seen in a very long time: a spirituality of living nature that was experiential rather than dogmatic. The ancient Druids were a major inspiration to them. Like many of us, they found a lot to appeal to them in the idea of worship under the open sky, a tradition centered on wisdom rather than moral one-upsmanship, and a spirituality of trees and green nature. That made it inevitable that when they came to choose a name for themselves, they would choose one that honored the ancient priesthood from which they'd drawn so much inspiration. That's why we're called Druids. Did the Druid Revivalists have, as the people I mentioned earlier ask self-righteously, a "right" to use the name? It's hard to see how this question means anything at all. The meaning of language is fixed by usage, not by some arbitrary system of trademarks. You don't see the bricklayer's union suing the Masons and insisting that nobody has the right to use the word "mason" unless they actually build things of brick or stone, and the descendants of Col. Boycott would be laughed out of court if they insisted that nobody had the right to call a boycott unless it was directed at them. For three centuries now the word "Druid" has meant, among other things, a participant in the Druid Revival. That's a simple historical fact. The irony, of course, is that if current Druid Revival groups went together and tried to trademark the word, we probably could. Druids of the Revival tradition outnumber would-be "authentic Pagan Celts" by something better than 20 to 1. We've also been using the word for almost 300 years, while the movement that now claims to be "authentic Celtic Paganism" was invented in the 1990s, and has no more connection to the ancient Druids than we do. But the trademarking of "Druid" isn't going to happen, because one of the great values of the Druid Revival is tolerance. We believe that everyone has the right to follow their own unique path, whether or not they use the word Druidry to describe it. That includes those whose path leads them to think they need to work themselves up into a self-righteous swivet any time someone disagrees with them -- though I hope we'll be forgiven for rolling our eyes and walking away... ;-) Yours beneath the sacred oaks, /|\ John Michael Greer |
| Rather off topic, but... In reply to your question, no, I am not a Mason. Freemasonry and The Druid Revival merely share some common ground. Although, you do have the proper approach to finding the answers about Masonry you seek. It's said that to find out more about Freemasonry, just ask one. |
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Alright, come on now, don't be all hiding up that information. What you two talking about this mysterious druid web site that we are not supposed to see?
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That site might have an ulterior motive GothicNature, they just displayed a picture on every linked page showing a baptism performed by men lowering a naked elderly man into water. I am not sure if the men who were lowering him were themselves naked or not. Tully seems to think it is just an individual site with a 'preference' and not part of what the larger organization believes. Is that an actual ceremony among Druids Tully?
Post Date: 10th Feb, 2008 - 1:16am / Post ID: #
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| Alright, come on now, don't be all hiding up that information. What you two talking about this mysterious druid web site that we are not supposed to see? |
As I am merely a guest here, I leave it to JB as to whether he wishes to provide said link. It contains a photograph of some members of that order in a state that some would find objectionable. Mind you, I am not prudish in my views, but for an all-ages public forum, the picture is inappropriate.
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