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  Michael Travesser is Jesus Christ returned to earth       0.00%
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  Michael Travesser is not Jesus but a prophet       0.00%
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  Michael Travesser is a false prophet leading people astray       50.00%
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  Michael Travesser is just a misguided soul preying on other misguided souls       37.50%
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14th May, 2008 - 2:49pm / Post ID: #

Michael Travesser & Strong City - Page 2

TerryCzap, that is an interesting take. After watching the video there was one main question that came to mind. If he has the 'turth' then why isolate himself? He should be vigorously publishing the truth across and abroad, but it does not seem like he is interested in doing this?



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14th May, 2008 - 3:13pm / Post ID: #

City Strong and Travesser Michael

Terry, how do you know he never said a lie? Do you consider yourself perfect? You was with him during this 40 years at all times and places? It is an impossibility that you can tell me he never lied/lies unless you have been with him 24/7 for the past 40 years.

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Seven years ago God told him he was Messiah.


He believes he is Jesus the Christ? The one that lived more than 2,000 years ago?

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I had asked God about the matter, and God told me that Michael was indeed the Christ returned, and that soon all of God's children would be leaving the earth.


God seems to tell many things to people. It is enough to open the papers and read people killing others because God told them to do it, kids being tortured because God told the parents to do it. With all due respect, I am sure you are quite familiar with the Scriptures, and the signs of the Second Coming of Christ are for all to see. Where does Mr. Bent ("Travesser") fits in all this? Someone with basic scripture knowledge will know Mr. Bent is not the Christ. Matthew:

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  24:3  And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

24:5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.


24:6  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

24:7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

24:8  All these are the beginning of sorrows.

24:9  Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

24:10  And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

24:11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

24:12  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

24:13  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

24:14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

24:15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

24:16  Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

24:17  Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

24:18  Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

24:19  And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

24:20  But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

24:21  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

24:22  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

24:23  Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24:24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

24:25  Behold, I have told you before.

24:26  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

24:27  For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

24:28  For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

24:29  Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

24:30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

24:31  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

24:32  Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

24:33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

24:34  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

24:35  Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

24:36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.


These are the signs prior to Christ coming. Were they fulfilled according to you?


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Will you be leaving with the believers, or do you plan to stay and die in the great and final destruction?


I am trying my best to live my life as God would like me to. He is the only Judge and will determine that but one thing is for sure, the scripture tell us what to expect of the coming of the Savior, and since the verses are more than clear the conclusion is simple: Mr. Bent is not the Christ.



Post Date: 14th May, 2008 - 4:49pm / Post ID: #

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TerryCzap,  If he has the 'turth' then why isolate himself? He should be vigorously publishing the truth across and abroad, but it does not seem like he is interested in doing this?


JB,

What is the work of a Messiah? Isn't it to accomplish the things the Father has given him to do? Isn't that what Jesus did? We do not invent our work, but we only do those things that please the heavenly Father.

If Michael is so isolated, then how did you find out about him? Many people suggest that they know what the Messiah should be doing. My question to those false prophets is this? Who told you how Messiah should run his life? Are you the God that dictates the orders out?

The "isolation" complex is in the same category as the "sex" complex. People think they know what Michael was told to do. How do these vain men know what he was told? Where you watching and listening to what happened?

Were you in the heavens when God told Abraham to kill his son, just as the rest of the pagans were doing? Were these "wise" men sitting on the right hand of God when he told the prophet Hosea to marry a whore, contrary to the biblical teachings? Where were you when Moses was told to go sacrifice the animals (cattle) that the Egyptians were worshiping? Did God get your permission before telling Elijah to murder 400 pastors of an apostate church?

How could all these holy men do things that were contrary to biblical teaching? Truly, God laughs at your ignorance.

14th May, 2008 - 4:57pm / Post ID: #

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Ignorance? Ignorance of what Travesser? I know about him based on a documentary and his arrest, other than that this Community will probably the most publicity he could ever hope to get. I do not have to taste evil to recognize it. You isolate yourselves and have one man intimate with many women, some of whom were / are married civilly and then expect me to buy that god told him to do that. There are many gods, I very much doubt that the Holy God told him to do that. By their fruits you know them. Travesser has the same cultist behavior as his predecessors, a child from a disturbed background who takes upon himself a messianic role.



Post Date: 14th May, 2008 - 5:45pm / Post ID: #

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City Strong and Travesser Michael

I have to agree with JB here. IF this man is Jesus come back to earth he would not be having carnal knowledge of women. He has no reason to. How did we hear of this? It was a local news feed that we just happened across. IF this man is Jesus he is not showing a very good example on how to lead a Christian life. I was not there when moses was there nor when David was king or John the baptist was alive but I hold the law that were put down by god to moses as dear. One of those laws was not to covet thy neighbors wife. This guy taking married women to bed is breaking one of gods 10 main rules. If he was Christ he would hold these laws not break them.

Post Date: 14th May, 2008 - 7:43pm / Post ID: #

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Yes, all those who do not see Michael as the Messiah are ignorant. The longer time goes on however, the more their ignorance shows itself as intentional. This makes it even worse, and eventually they will lose their earthly kingdoms just as Jerusalem was destroyed many years ago for rejecting Jesus as the Messiah.


History is being replayed. God has sent his Son, and men who think that they are wise, see him as an imposter. Eventually they will have to look Michael in the eye and acknowledge that their own perversions have kept them out of the kingdom of God. As a man is, so will he see Michael.

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I was not there when moses was there nor when David was king or John the baptist was alive but I hold the law that were put down by god to moses as dear.


Do you ever tell a lie? Do you ever steal from anyone, even the tax man? Do you honor the fourth commandment? If you ever break one of the commandments then you do not hold any of them dear at all.

If God told Michael to consummate with a woman, how could that be construed into coveting? I can tell you how it works. Men who covet other men's wives will see Michael as one who covets.

Reconcile Edited: TerryCzap on 14th May, 2008 - 7:45pm

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14th May, 2008 - 7:50pm / Post ID: #

Michael Travesser & Strong City - Page 2

That is the most judgmental bologna I've ever read. Instead of pointing fingers why don't you tell us some hard facts like how do you know he is an earthly embodiment of god? What proof has he shown you? What has he done for you? Jesus gave many facts and showed through fulfillment of scripture and healing the sick and lame that he is the true Messiah, whereas Michael is just showing that he is busy in bed.



Post Date: 4th Jun, 2008 - 6:58pm / Post ID: #

Michael Travesser & Strong City General Religious Beliefs - Page 2

Name: Jeri

Comments: I grew up with a girl that is in this compound right now. She was not brought up to believe the stuff that Michael Travesser is saying. The Bible says that every eye shall see Him when Jesus returns. Therefore, Michael, you are NOT the Son of God. I urge this girl and her sister to get out while the gettins' good!

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