If you have money or your parents have money the court appointed lawyer will charge you for your time. IF you make above a certain amount of money then you can not have a court appointed attorney. Most attorneys will have in the filed papers who will be responsible for the lawyers fees and the court costs.
This girl has cost her family very dearly for he temper tantrum then. I feel for them it is going to be one rocky road.
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Wow...Canada has gone totally liberal! Check out what has the potential to pass through the Canadian Senate...
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Senators approve anti-spanking bill A proposed law that could see parents charged for spanking their children is heading to the House of Commons after clearing a major hurdle in the Senate. The bill, supported by the Liberal majority, quietly passed third reading in the Senate on Tuesday night despite Conservative objections to the legislation. The vote count was not recorded. Bill S-209, which needs House approval to be made into law, proposes to eliminate Section 43 of Canada's Criminal Code, which allows parents, teachers and caregivers to use reasonable force to discipline a child and correct their behaviour. Liberal Senator Celine Hervieux-Payette first introduced the bill in December 2004, shortly after the Supreme Court denied a challenge to Section 43 and upheld the right of adults to physically discipline children between the ages of two and 12. Dion's support expected Hervieux-Payette said she believes she will get the support of Liberal Leader Stephane Dion in the House, although the ruling Conservatives have voiced concern over the bill. Hervieux-Payette said if the House does not pass her legislation, she will simply keep reintroducing it. "It is to send a signal, so that people who use violence in a repeated way will no longer feel protected," she said, according to Canwest News Service. "It is not to arrest everyone who gives their child a tap on the arm." The Senate mulled over the bill for more than three years, as the Canadian Bar Association and the Canadian Council of Criminal Defence Lawyers spoke out against it. In response to concerns, the bill was amended to allow parents and caregivers to use force in very specific situations - such as when a caregiver wants to immediately stop a child who is about to do something dangerous that could cause serious harm. Routine discipline and using spanking as premeditated punishment wouldn't be allowed. "No corporal punishment would be allowed, either by an educator, the mother, the father or someone acting for them," Hervieux-Payette said. https://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/06/19/spanking-bill.html |
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I was looking at Canada as a potential future place to migrate too, but I dislike laws that tell me how I must run my home, discipline my children, and so forth. Krakyn what are you doing to Canada!?
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This case is an absolute farce and a disgrace to Canadian courts. Even as a farce, this isn't even funny, it's just stupid and doesn't make any sense. Preventing a girl from possibly being raped/murdered by a serial killer online is a commendation to the father, but he's being taken to court for protecing her?
His decision to not let her go to her middle-school graduation is a light punishment for what he caught her doing. The family can celebrate the graduation differently, but this girl has to realize how serious her actions are, and an equally serious punishment is a good thing.
This judge is wasting taxpayer dollars and court time that could be used to make this world a better place, not a more stupid one. This case is a disservice to everyone involved.
As to who put the daughter up to going to court, it's got to be the bitter maternal mom or her new boyfriend.
I have a feeling that if this law passes there are going to be a lot of parents in jail and a lot of teens and younger kids running around with no authority to stop them. You can place them in the states care but what is the state going to do to when they realize that they have created a no win situation for parents to control their kids? The state itself will have no way of controlling the kids. Will the state arrest itself for excessive punishment?
Klar our streets look no different then yours the teens are already mouthy and unruly since they know mom and dad can do little to them.
I bet 80% of the parents I know have never spanked their kids. I have and hope not to have to again as they are getting up in age, where reasoning is a better tool.
I spoke once to an officer on this and he said no court will argue on a slap on the bottom that does not leave a mark. Even if this bill passes I am sure spankings will not cease but beating might slow down though I doubt it. It will mean the social workers will be very overburdened in monitoring home of suspected spankings.
I just keep praying and faxing letters.
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