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Isn't Satan the father of all lies and confusion? Doesn't he has the power to look himself like an angel of light? Those cards are not toys and shouldn't be played with. Please stay away from it, it is dangerous to be playing with darkness EVEN if you think you're speaking with someone "good". Satan is the master of deception.

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Very interesting experience, thank you for sharing. It sounds to me like this was not an evil spirit. I know for a fact that Satan and his followers will NEVER tell you to do certain things like, pray, repent, be baptised, accept Christ or follow the Holy Ghost.

If satan or his followers were to teach repentance or love or any good thing, then they would be doing God's will. They will not teach such things even to persuade us to believe 1 lie. Because if they give us 99 truths and one lie, then we have gotten a better sermon that a sacrament meeting in which we are taught the docterines of men mingled with scripture on a more equal basis. Satan at best will teach half truths with is another way of saying complete lies that sound true. But never truths, and never to do good.

In either case, those who rely on the power of the Holy Ghost to recognize truth can learn from any source and detect the truth from the lies, even if Satan is the teacher. This is one reason Joseph Smith was willing to "give any man my pulpit". He knew that the congregation was taught to rely on the rock of personal revelation and that those on this Rock could NOT fall. As Mormons, we are willing to accept truth from any source, no matter where it comes from, including Heaven or hell. (Hell, just to make the point stick, not that truth comes from hell...)

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Amonhi:

How do you explain Satan disguising himself as an Angel of Light? In the Scriptures we even have a way to recognize a true angel from Satan therefore, he can indeed fake, lie or pretend to be anyone he wants to be and preach anything he wants to preach for a dark purpose sometimes we are not aware of. He even preaches scripture (example: Jesus fasting for 40 days and 40 nights).

On top of that, in the Scriptures is well clear these kind of practices are not something we should be engaging ourselves with, therefore why then would a "good" spirit use an "evil" tool to communicate? It is simple, if the spirit is good he will manifest himself/herself in light NOT in darkness.

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Name: Jennifer

Comments: I just wanted to share a quick story about how when I was 13 I played with a Ouija board as well and had some scary and great experiences too! My friend and I contacted a boy who supposedly died in a car crash at the age of 9, he told me I would marry a man named "David". At the age of 19 I joined the Church and 2 years later ended up marrying a guy named David! I didn't recall this 'til after the fact. Crazy I know.

I feel that the Church wants us to avoid the Ouija, Tarot Cards etc because of how evil spirits can interfere. I've had Tarot readings that said I would have a boy and a girl one day..totally false as I ended up having 5 girls. I had another reading that was bang on about my future. I don't believe these things are evil or that people who have such spiritual gifts are evil BUT because we sometimes can be deceived we need to avoid them for our safety ya know?

I believe that your Mom contacted you...especially if the feelings that accompanied it were good. You have a divine mission by the sounds of it! Just have a little faith and consider that your ancestors are praying for you to do their work and inturn your work as well. If you wanna know the truth of what happened just pray about it right?
My prayers go out to you

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Tools are not good or evil in and of themselves. Just like a gun or a knife. Cards and Ouija Boards are tools. The problem is that people tend to look for authorities to follow. In these cases, people want the spirits behind the tools to be there authorities. This draws evil spirits to these tools like a magnet as I will explain below. When a Good spirit wants to talk to us, they will often use whatever means we will accept. In this case, it was not manifesting at all, light or dark.

Satan disguised as an Angle of light: There are many examples of Satan appearing as an Angle of Light. But there are a number of things that will distinguish him and his followers from good spirits. However, it is useful to interject here that just as people here are at various levels of progression, so to when we die, we are not magically changed into a completely holy or evil person. We remain the same. So there are many spirits who's progression is not completed, and to say a spirit is either good or evil would be foolish. We must use the same technique as we learn from angels or even God as we do learning from men. That is to rely on the Holy Ghost to teach us all things. There are many well intentioned spirits that can lead us down dangerous paths.

Not to weird you or any one out, but these spirits are around us everywhere. Occasionally they try to talk to us for whatever reason. Sometimes we are listening and sometimes we are not. If your lucky, you can find stories from the brethern, (Usually in their biographies), about them talking to/visiting with various dead relatives or friends.

A few days after my Father in Law, (and one of my best friends), died he visited my wife and I. We had a wonderful conversation about what he was experiencing as a new dead person. Very interesting as I did not quite understand how much the body actually does for us. He described not being able to see us or hear us in the same way he could in life because he no longer had physical eyes or ears. He explained that he could only see us with his Spiritual eyes. (Anyone who has experienced seeing with spiritual eyes will understand what that is like. We can experience both now because we have both a spirit and a body. As spirits they can only see with spiritual eyes.) He told us many more things and I wept because until that point I knew I would still be able to communicate with him and had not comprehended any great loss in his death. Now I know what was lost was the ability to experience him physically and that is a really big deal.

As we get closer to the millennium, the communication between us and the spirit world will grow until the spirits who need there work done will be able to provide there own genealogy and records.

Going back to the question about recognizing Satan appearing as an angel of light, consider the following.

One might ask, "If that was a key to discovering Satan as an Angel of light, then wouldn't Satan try to trick people by not trying to shake their hand?" If I were Satan and were as crafty, surely I would know those people who have read this and I would not extend my hand as a spirit knowing that you would be able to tell. So either 1. Satan hasn't figured it out yet, or 2. he has figured it out and will no longer extend his hand so the moment that Joseph revealed this key, it became invalid and obsolete.

I say it is still valid and not because Satan doesn't know it or because he hasn't figured it out, but for another reason. Satan and his followers are easy to comprehend. There sin is Pride. That is what got them kicked out of heaven. They do not want equality, God's plan. They want superiority, Satan's plan. Give them power over others by control, manipulation, coercion or terrorism and they are happy. Feed there pride and you can even control them, but they want control over their masters too, so I don't suggest trying to rule them. (Besides, trying to rule them or control them would make you like them.) They have no love but themselves. They hate those who have true power and seek to destroy them and discredit them. They would rather tear down others who are higher than them than humble themselves and learn to better themselves because to better themselves they have to admit they are flawed. . They also justify others in doing evil because it also justifies themselves. They are not humble enough to condemn themselves or admit they are doing wrong. And they truly believe they are right to the point that they become angry if you try to prove them wrong. They are the epitome of utter and total pride.

So why do they try to shake your hand? Because it makes them appear to be more than they are. It makes them appear to have a body or have had a body and be resurrected. They think they are raising themselves higher than they have achieved. Kind of like pretending to have done something to impress others when you know full well that you haven't. Look for the pride in these examples:

Here are some of the teachings of this particular devil,

Do you see the justification for selfish acts that hurt others. The mentality that justifies the "Dog eat dog world", so you better become the bigger dog.

Here is Satan visiting Moses,

Another way to detect and chase away an evil spirit is to laugh at them, loudly. If you can keep your presence of mind. They hate to be laughed at as you could imagine a being of such pride would be. They get very upset and leave.

They easiest way to tell regarding a message that has been delivered by an unseen messenger is whether it encourages you to become a better person, (humble your self and improve) or not and if it seeks honor and praise or gives all glory to God and treats you as an equal. The following is an example of a good spirit that visited John the revelator:

In sum up:
- Good Spirit - Uplifts, encourages us to become better (progression), seeks no praise or glory but gives glory to God.
- Bad Spirit - Degrades others, encourages us to become worse (Digression), seeks Praise and Glory and takes glory from others, even God.

(Being afraid of the terrorist I mean Satan is a major way they gain power over you and feel Glorified. It is often how we encourage them and give them power over us. Fear God instead.)

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I have always believed that there are multitudes of spirits at different levels of progression roaming about the earth. I believe the earth is the spirit world as well as the habitation of Satan and his fallen angels. I don't have the quotes, but I think that's fairly well known doctrine. I know that I never feel alone, and I know that many of the people around me are family members. I agree with you, Amonhi, that these spirits are able to communicate with us in certain circumstances, possibly depending on spiritual laws, their personal power, and our ability to hear or feel them. Maybe the Ouija board is simply a tool that spirits with positive motives can use just as well as "evil" spirits. However, I agree with LDS_forever that they should still never be used because too many people can't discern between true and false communication. And quite simply, even those that have the spiritual acuity to accurately discern wouldn't need to use the Ouija board as a tool in the first place--they can just pray and receive answers through the Spirit as the Lord has instructed us to do. I don't think there is any important information we could glean from a random spirit that the Lord, through His Spirit, couldn't tell us just as well.

Now, on the other hand, I will point out that when I used the Ouija board I wasn't in a frame of mind or heart to seek out information through the Spirit. Perhaps in a situation like that the "good" spirits around me seized upon the only opportunity available to communicate something positive. To be honest, I can't really think of anything that was said that conflicted with gospel doctrine. The only questionable point was the Gabriel/Name claim, but that doesn't matter either way, really. I'm not drawing any doctrinal conclusions from anything I read on a Ouija board regardless. But if they were well-meaning spirits, I suppose I got lucky. I've encountered unmistakably malicious spirits too many times, on a Ouija board and otherwise, and LDS_forever is quite right in pointing out that it can be a dangerous tool of deception--one that we are told to stay away from. So from a simple obedience standpoint, it really doesn't matter if they can be used for good purposes or not. And it seems to me that those who would seek out information through means other than personal revelation through the Spirit are simply being spiritually lazy--not wanting to put in the faith and obedience to become attuned to the true Source. I say this objectively not self-righteously, being quite out of tune right now myself. But I would rather wait until I can hear and trust answers from the Lord again before seeking out any other source for answers.

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lindsayjane,

Very well said. I agree completely. You stated my feelings very well. Bravo for you! I do not suggest that anyone seek guidance for their lives from any source other than the Holy Spirit.

Rather off topic, but... QUOTE But I would rather wait until I can hear and trust answers from the Lord again before seeking out any other source for answers. Christ spent his time with the "sinners" because they needed him most and were also humbly open to learning and APPLYing what he taught. It has been my experience that when I had been at my lowest points, the Spirit was more than willing to minister to me just as Christ did in life. The spirit will give you answers when you need them. And you need them most when you feel unworthy of receiving them. It is not God that rejects us from His life, but we that reject God from our lives. And so we are commanded, "Receive the Holy Ghost!" I reiterate that command given to you already and "say unto you, Receive the Holy Ghost!" When we are willing, we can understand the true unconditionally of God's love. God IS love, and that love is given freely and experienced with greater contrast when we feel the most unworthy of it. I pray you experience this.

Christ spent his time with the "sinners" because they needed him most and were also humbly open to learning and APPLYing what he taught. It has been my experience that when I had been at my lowest points, the Spirit was more than willing to minister to me just as Christ did in life. The spirit will give you answers when you need them. And you need them most when you feel unworthy of receiving them. It is not God that rejects us from His life, but we that reject God from our lives. And so we are commanded, "Receive the Holy Ghost!" I reiterate that command given to you already and "say unto you, Receive the Holy Ghost!" When we are willing, we can understand the true unconditionally of God's love. God IS love, and that love is given freely and experienced with greater contrast when we feel the most unworthy of it. I pray you experience this.

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It told you to go back to church so that you wouldn't think it was a tool of Satan to take you away from the path.

Be careful, your soul is at stake here. Going to church and still consulting a Ouija board is not conducive to the Spirit. You may start trusting more in it than your divinely called leaders.

Tread carefully, sister.