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Vincento It is a matter of time, to have these - Page 4 - Politics, Business, Civil, History - Posted: 17th Jun, 2010 - 11:40pm

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Being married to more than one woman at the same time - illegal in most parts of the Western World. In the Middle East and South Africa it is legal. (See links to related Threads)
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17th Jun, 2010 - 7:42am / Post ID: #

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After rereading my post I want to make it clear that I think polygamy is not an organized crime. Yet that is how it is viewed by the mainstream because of certain factions who take polygamy to a different level. The media of course focuses on these pockets, its good for ratings.

I know I first started thinking that it definitely was an organized crime. Now I realize that not all polygamy should be considered in this light. Polygamy is a word describing the practice of a man taking several wives, that has been practiced throughout time. The way that America knows it today is much different than it was intended I think.

I don't want to belittle the view of the media, as I do not agree with polygamy and religious freedom being used in that way (this I view as organized crime). At the same time I think it is pretty ridiculous to say that polygamy is some evil horrible crime that is part of some grand crime ring.

It is a tricky sort of stance so I want to try and make it clear exactly how I feel so as to not upset anyone who may be a polygamist. On that same note I want to say loud and clear I do not agree with under aged marriages and such things as that. These tend to fall under the category of organized crime when broken down and looked at objectively, in my opinion.


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17th Jun, 2010 - 9:10am / Post ID: #

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Well, I agreed with your first post but in a slightly different context:

Polygamy is illegal. If you are practicing it in the USA, you are breaking the law. In other words, you are committing a crime and that makes you a criminal. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not...if you are practicing it, you are breaking the law. Of course, most of us break the law daily when we drive our cars, so you aren't alone.

If you live by yourselves and practice polygamy, then you are just a few individuals breaking the law. It is still a crime, but far from organized. If everyone is happy and you aren't flaunting it, then there is little reason for you to be harassed.

If you live with a group of like minded people (outside of your own wives/other wives/husband) that have gotten together to in large part live the lifestyle of polygamy, then that would be technically be organized crime. I would expect the group to have a leader and some sort of rules (written or verbal) to demonstrate the "organized" part of the group.

With that said, if the group polices themselves and doesn't flaunt the breaking of the law (ie...don't drive 100mph on the highway...you will get caught) then there is little reason for the police to investigate anything. But if just one person leaves unhappy and goes to the police (with a story of illegal activities), they have every right to investigate and there is the problem in a nutshell. The whole situation depends on no one leaving unhappily or with a "ax to grind". Statistically, that "house of cards" falls as was stated earlier that you will get one bad apple at some point.

Is this tantamount to r-pe? NO

Is polygamy the worst thing in society? NOPE

Is it illegal? Sure is...

If you freely want to continue this lifestyle, I suggest working on the judicial system. While I doubt it will bear any fruit, the only other thing to do is make sure that everyone in the marriages is happy.


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17th Jun, 2010 - 2:34pm / Post ID: #

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What I don't get is....Isn't polygamy when a man is married to more than one woman? Most of these groups the men are married to only one woman legally, he isn't married to the other wives legally so what is exactly the crime then?


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17th Jun, 2010 - 3:02pm / Post ID: #

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Sleuth, that has me baffled too.
It is not against the law or at least not prosecuted, to be married and have extra marital affairs, or see a prostitute. I knew a man, VP of an internationally known company that was driven by his private chauffeur to a particular woman's house every Wednesday after work until the next morning. I am sure his wife was aware of this. And legally that is "OK". But to be married to one lady and another either living in your house or across the street take care of her and family, can land you in jail for 5 years.?
Go figure.
To me, and yes living the principle gives me a biased opinion, but still, I think that we need to look beyond the law. Certainly we have "bad" laws because society is dynamic and to a certain degree should reflect that. Since when did we give governments the right to tell us with whom we can sleep. In many states oral sex was a crime. I am not arguing for or against this practice, but who is the government, to even take these "rights" to tell me what happens in somebody's bedroom?
I understand that this is off topic. Just venting I guess.


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17th Jun, 2010 - 3:22pm / Post ID: #

Crime Organized Polygamy Is

For those who know my predicament here thinking of polygamy as a crime is insanity. There is nothing criminal about it. If the persons involved in the family commit a crime, that's their individual choice.


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17th Jun, 2010 - 3:32pm / Post ID: #

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Actually, in most states of the US, it is illegal to partake of a prostitutes services. The government has many rules that regulate who can legally be in your bed or marry and most of us are quite ok with them and even welcome them.

In general, the local authorities know of these groups and do not harass them. However, it is when a unhappy member or members escape and tell stories of illegal activies that the authorities must act.

If you were practicing polygamy in the US, there is little chance that you would actually try to have a civil union with multiple wives unless your desire is to be caught and prosecuted. I would assume that if you are in a group that practices the lifestyle you have a ceremony that is conducted within the group but not formally logged with the government. However, the wives that are not officially on the record would easily be common law wives in due time.

You may not like the law and that is fine. If enough people are of like mindedness, then it should be easy to overturn the law. If not, then the majority has spoken.


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17th Jun, 2010 - 3:37pm / Post ID: #

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Then like I said, they aren't committing any crimes. People assume they are because they think these women are legally married to the husband but they're not. About the welfare issue, those in monogamous marriages or single mothers do the same thing so no difference.


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17th Jun, 2010 - 11:40pm / Post ID: #

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Vincento
It is a matter of time, to have these laws changed. It was not too long ago that same gender couples would not be "tolerated" by the rest of society. Today opinions are rapidly changing. Polygamy in all it's various forms will be accepted and people will not tolerate a governmental influence. But that is all future.

Society is just very hypocritical in tolerating serial monogamy every 7 years (if that long) extra marital affairs, one night stands, but consenting adults, no force at all, cannot no are not allowed to decide how to live their lives or should I say decide with whom to share their love. It's sadly amazing.


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