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"Your actions now? You aren't going to… Please Theaton, don't make this worse than you already have. It costs us nothing to satisfy his request, and after that, if necessary, he will be destroyed as you wanted from the start. Though I don't know if that would even work, given the outcome last time."

"None of his actions have proven anything except that he didn't want to fight us the last time. Think for a moment. If he is what we think he is, he has no choice but to coerce others into helping him, and threats are the only leverage he has to do that."

Edited: daishain on 19th Feb, 2017 - 8:22pm

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Jesla studies Kresnik before speaking. " This is insulting. It seems that you and others believe this foul creature over us. You have no reason to believe him at all. If he wants the body for nefarious purposes he would say the exact thing that he said. He is playing off your sympathies. He disturbed my dreams last night. I don't have too much sympathy for him or it. I would rather not go. If he does turn on you I'm confident that you and the others can handle it. If this an order from Archival then I will go. Otherwise I will stay here. " Jesla frowns as she finishes talking.

Edited: Kyrroeth on 19th Feb, 2017 - 8:52pm

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"I am not going to order you to do anything Jesla. I do what I think is necessary to bring a troubled soul some rest. All any of us can do is act upon our principles. You take care of yourself and I will see you upon our return. Maybe then we can sit down and come to a better understanding of each other. If he plagued your dreams, it only makes me more resolute to bring this to an end. If he believes seeing the Stag Lord's body will end his suffering, it will likely end your dreams too - unless those dreams are just a symbol of inner turmoil."

Edited: Diarmadhim on 19th Feb, 2017 - 8:57pm

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Out of Character: Archival's on the wrong side of the river for the conversation unless he chose to spend time and/or resources crossing. Kr ran over on his own to ask Je, Th, and My to join the rest with the intent of just running back if they refused. I'll assume that Ar conveyed the gist of what you said to Kr before he went.

In Character: "Archival is not ordering you to do this, we simply hoped to put this affair to rest together."

"I believe you Jesla when you say Davik is dangerous, I think so as well. I believe you when you say you think he is a threat, and that he has touched your dreams. For this reason, I hope to send his soul to the outer planes as swiftly as it can be managed, for your sake as well as his."

"But you don't know Davik's true purpose, any more than I do. You don't actually know he is a threat, any more than I know otherwise. I don't think you are a liar in this, I think you are jumping to conclusions without proof. And if you are wrong, well, you are making a mistake with terrible consequences. I would be a poor friend if I let that pass, especially when there is an easy alternative."

Edited: daishain on 19th Feb, 2017 - 9:44pm

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Out of Character: I assumed from Theaton's post that the fey would help them across the river with relative ease. One of them, Yarrow, has the ability to manipulate water incredibly well. Even if not, the river isn't so wide that we couldn't be heard. In real life I can be quite boisterous and heard from a silly distance away.

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The Diplomat says...

Kyra repeats what she had said previously to those who had not been there before, with nervousness in her tone though also a conviction. Especially, she makes emphasis on the fact that on the case have a situation like this he did not choose to be evil but forced into such by being made undead.

With a sigh she says, "If we must fight him, we shall. Yet I ask that you allow us to at least try. Yes, Davik may be lying though to remind even those who may be considered good can lie." Kyra hopes her words were understood, and does not frustrate Jesla to greatly.

Still Kyra will agree on this, saying, "You do not need to come with us, as none of us would ask you do that which makes you uncomfortable." The young paladin looks deeply into the barbarian's eyes..

Edited: Thomaslee on 19th Feb, 2017 - 10:52pm

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Theaton Tells Kresnik, "I to want to put this matter to rest. I am on mind to go back up there and help the Fey clean up her river as well as make sure this "Davik" creature is no longer able to harm others. I will wait as you bring the body up but I will also be ready to act if he seeks more than he has already asked for. Like I said I do not take well threats or blackmail. You are willing to give into blackmail who says it will not demand more and keep on blackmailing us to get more power and be more than we want to deal with. The Fey have stated they do not like what is there and that tells me this is not a good thing and I would like to see this foul creature removed permanently from this river of Bal's"

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Ignoble says...

Mykael responds to Jesla as they wait "Archival and I share the same title of nobility, but he was chosen by myself and the other barons to be the ruler of our new realm, which means that we have agreed to answer to him so to speak though this does not necessarily translate to blind obedience. I imagine it is something of a challenge for us as a group though since prior to the founding of the realm I always had the impression that Theaton was the De Facto leader of the group, but when the agreement was made to install Archival as the ruler this dynamic changed and he is essentially king over me because I agreed to put him in that position, not because he holds a higher rank of nobility.

I don't know what, if any, punishment may be coming; there are a lot of factors that play into what happened and your culpability as far as I'm concerned. My concern is that if we do not obey the reasonable commands of those that we have appointed to be our superiors, how can we expect our subjects to obey our reasonable commands? I don't agree with Archival's position in regards to his views of the undead or other creatures that I think are evil by their very nature, but I also do not agree with Theaton's actions and his rush to violence. The threat was not immediate enough to warrant forcing a violent confrontation. On the other hand, when it became clear that Theaton's life was threatened, even though it may have been through his own actions… well, I hold Archival responsible for the safety of those under his command and he should have intervened or allowed me to intervene."

Mykael thinks for a moment before he continues "Instead it would appear that Archival was willing to allow Theaton to die in order to prove a point and uphold what he believed was the law even though the law was not clearly defined in this instance as far as I’m concerned. When we return it is something that we will have to address in more detail.”

When they are all reunited and the issue comes up again Mykael will accompany the rest of the group to deliver the Stag Lords remains saying “Perhaps this will put Davik to rest but I am still against doing the will of an evil being regardless of why the being is evil the fact remains that it is evil. I will hope for the best but we we should be prepared for anything.”.