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I don't see any action taken to help - Page 2 - Mormon Doctrine Studies - Posted: 15th Aug, 2012 - 1:17am

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30th Sep, 2008 - 1:16pm / Post ID: #

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I personally feel that anything that is discussed on a mature LDS section is here because it is sacred

Mature LDS Topics are not here because they are sacred, many Topics here are far from sacred. They are here because we are Mature enough to respond to them without being immature or silly as is often seen in the Public Board where people go off topic, become offended easily, and all sorts of nonsense.

As for "sucks", the purpose of the word is to drive emotion, and awake everyone out of their comfort zone, and it is working. This Community was not created to be agreeable, where is the fun in that? This Community was created to bring in International opinions, sources, and debate.

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I was angry at first and felt they were "Kicking me out of the church or punishing me" until I lost the pride and realized it was a really an act of mercy. If what I had done had so offended the Lord that a council had to be convened on my behalf--well pride should be the farthest thing but it wasn't at that time.

Thanks for sharing such a personal experience, and in a sense that is why Councils "suck" because initially you have the hurdle of the first attendance, but they are great when you receive full fellowship.



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30th Sep, 2008 - 1:41pm / Post ID: #

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The worst of the process for me was simply confessing things out loud to a man I hardly knew. Not that I didn't respect him, I just hadn't been coming to church at all, so this bishop was a nearly total stranger to me! How am I going to confess something so deeply personal to this guy and survive? It was humiliating... and then humbling. I knew I had to do it, but it was awful. After the full process had completed, it was okay, but that was one of the hardest things to do in my whole life.



1st Oct, 2008 - 5:50am / Post ID: #

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The only thing I can think of that would fit this description is that it sucks to see somebody have to go through it even though you know the eventual outcome -if they stay the course - will be so worth it. It is hard enough to have to face yourself with your transgressions. To have to verbalize them to somebody else is one of the most difficult things in the world to do. And Bishops are human so sometimes they do ask inappropriate questions. If there is a transgression that requires Church discipline it would suck more not to get it taken care of.



1st Oct, 2008 - 6:46am / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (JB @ 30-Sep 08, 5:16 AM)
Mature LDS Topics are not here because they are sacred, many Topics here are far from sacred. They are here because we are Mature enough to respond to them without being immature or silly as is often seen in the Public Board where people go off topic, become offended easily, and all sorts of nonsense.


Thanks for the clarification. I actually didn't think of the other topics that are here--sorry about that. I was referring to sacred topics. My mistake.

Farseer,

I do understand your concern and I am not sure what would be worse--to tell a complete stranger or to tell someone who has known and loved you and cares about you--knowing they will be disappointed. Even though it is not THEM that we are to feel bad about it gives you an inkling of what kind of disappointment Heavenly Father must feel. I do know he feels joy when we come back though as well.



1st Oct, 2008 - 6:59am / Post ID: #

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Just going by personal experience it is more difficult to tell someone close to you than a complete stranger or casual acquaintance. The thought of disappointing those who care about you is often what keeps people away from the repentance process. Which ironically keeps them away from what would make their loved ones most happy. So there's another thing that really sucks.



1st Oct, 2008 - 7:10am / Post ID: #

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Well, that's true, having someone who knows you and knows your family is hard, too. I'm actually going through a difficult thing with my 11-year-old daughter right now, and the bishop we have now, his wife was babysitting my daughter after school last year. So he knows her, he knows her fairly well, and he knows me. And this was really hard to go through with her, because she is so embarrassed. He's being really great about everything, but who knew an 11-year-old could get into serious trouble?!?



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1st Oct, 2008 - 7:16am / Post ID: #

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You know there again--it sucks that our youth are getting drug down younger and younger as time goes by. It would be interesting to see comparisons of ages now and those of even 25-30 years ago. I wonder if they had to deal with so many, so young...and that is the ones who are repentant. I am thankful your bishop is such a great man. Kindness goes far with someone who is going through that.



15th Aug, 2012 - 1:17am / Post ID: #

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I don't see any action taken to help you on the right part as "Sucking" or "Sucks". You have to consider why the church has this process in the first place... Its because the member really needs help, so much so that simpler actions isn't going to work.



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