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The Federal Government has basically taken a hands-off approach to this issue saying that it should be decided by the states. That being said, I will be surprised if the California Supreme Court will overturn the will of its people. Since the Federal Government has let this be a state issue and the state of california has voiced its opinion, the California Supreme Court would in effect be making a Constitutional Ruling. Now that this is California, there is probably no other state where this would be as likely to happen.

What the gay community needs to do is take their lumps with this setback and then put for a new proposition where they vote for the legality of gay marriage and not a proposition where they vote for the legality of making gay marriage illegal. Subtle difference, I know, but a very important difference for those that really don't read the proposition and think that it is just the gay marriage proposition.

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Here is one person's take on what the true agenda is behind all of this:

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I do agree that the base argument for gay marriage opens up all kinds of branches into other areas or further stretching the idea of what brings happiness. Laws on incest, beastiality, polygamy, etc... Some will say that is far fetched. However, place yourself back in the 1950's and ask yourself would we be talking about legalizing gay marriage then? It really isn't that far fetched. It comes down to what is legally a "marriage" and when is it OK to stand in the way of the "pursuit of happiness". For some, robbing a bank to get some money will make them happy or at least enhance their pursuit of it...but the law says it isn't legal.

First, the group was looking for protection against discrimination in the workplace. That to some degree has be accomplished.

Second, the group wanted equal rights...looking for civil unions, marriages and benefits.

I think the gay community could more easily get civil unions passed, but that really is not the agenda...it feels more like a fall back position to me. Civil unions could easily open up the equal rights...benefits and recognition...and actually allow the religious a way to not feel as though they have to stand in the way. Somewhat of a nice out for everyone.

Forcing a decision on the definition of marriage is a pinnacle. It is a keystone to our religious based morals as a society. Allowing gay marriage (which proponents will say look at the countries that have legalized it), it is a door into many other traditional beliefs. What actually is a family (why cant I just call my friends a family and buy a house and get benefits for all of us)? Will you be allowed to in gay marriage be allowed to marry your first cousin? I mean there will be no problems with genetic defects as a result and if you love one another...why not...it is the same argument for allowing it isn't it? Really, why cant you marry your sister? If 2 guys or 2 girls can get married, what would give them the right to stand in the way of family members hooking up.

If gay marriage is legal, then why cant they sue a church for not allowing membership? I know...it cant possibly happen. But hasn't it? The Mormon Church has seen governmental interference or at least the threat of it a few times. The US Government on 2 ocassions threatened the church with injunctions on the basis of polygamy and black membership. So if gay marriage is legal (just like Polygamy and racial discrimination was illegal), why cant the government enforce those rulings on a church...they have already set precedence and precedence is what law is all about. So, if they want to have a marriage in your church because it looks cool, isnt it descrimination if you dont allow it based on your entry requirements?

I know...far fetched. But is it really?

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Gay marriage ban upheld

California high court upholds gay marriage ban but allows existing same-sex marriages to stand. Ref. SignOnSanDiego.com

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California high court upholds gay marriage ban

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The California Supreme Court has upheld a voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, but it also decided that the estimated 18,000 gay couples who tied the knot before the law took effect will stay wed. Ref. Source 5

Marriage Same-Sex Proposition

Battle may return return to ballot next year, some advocates say

Stung by the California Supreme Court's ruling yesterday, advocates of allowing same-sex couples to marry began mapping plans to return to the ballot, probably as early as next year. "We think 2010 is the right time to go," said Marc Solomon, marriage director of the gay rights organization Equality California. "We've never seen the kind of energy and momentum and willingness to do the work of knocking on voters' doors and talking to people about why marriage is important to them." Ref. Source 7

Proposition 8 - Same-Sex Marriage

Their decision was interesting but will now cause so many lawsuits with many of the unmarried gays saying "Unfair!".

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Too bad, they should have thought about it before when the opportunity was on since the already established marriages are considered legal.

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Gay Marriage Continues

Judge lifts temporary stay on same-sex marriage in California. Couples may wed beginning August 18. Ref. CNN