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Proposition 8 - Same-Sex Marriage - Page 2

Yes, in California, we have Registered Domestic Partners (RDP) already - and that's not just for homosexuals and lesbians, but even some heterosexual couples (over 62) can be RDP, with all the rights and responsibilities of married couples under California law and for tax purposes.

However, because of cultural ideals, many same-sex couples want to be "married" rather than "registered" -- they want those ritualistic words pronounced over them to feel as though they have that sanctification. Not all will want to have this done in church, as it can be done by a justice of the peace in a courthouse; however, those who want to push the matter will certainly be causing havoc for churches of all types. And as far as I know, most (if not all) mainstream churches follow scripture that condemns the practice of homosexuality.

This is the entire text that Proposition 8 will add to the California Constitution: "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." That was the text added to California law by Prop 22 back in 2000, which was passed by 61% of the voters. This law was overturned in May of this year by 4 activist judges who claim it was unconstitutional, which is why it's back on the ballot as a constitutional amendment, rather than a law, so that it can't be overturned by the courts again.

That was probably more than you wanted to know But there it is.

Roz

Marriage Same-Sex Proposition

Alright yes or no question, Proposition 8 makes it illegal to refuse gay marriage in church? Because I thought it did before but, and I quote: "Proposition 8 will add to the California Constitution: Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.". That made me confused.

Proposition 8 - Same-Sex Marriage History & Civil Business Politics

No. Proposition 8 defines marriage as between a man and a woman. Period. That means that same-sex marriage would not be valid in California, and it would not be legal to for two individuals of the same sex to marry -- in church or not.

Page 2 Marriage Same-Sex Proposition

Oh alright then, well then this proposition isn't constitution, wow then I read this entire article wrong then. Sorry to anyone I confused. So I guess I should come up with a different response then. Actually I'm going to go do some research on the subject real quick, then I'll post my opinion, I just think I may have thought of something.

Marriage Same-Sex Proposition

Well I agree that same-sex couples should be able to marry legally, but I don't believe on pushing your beliefs on anyone. Personally, I think same-sex unions are right and there's nothing wrong with them. However, if a church does not believe that the union is right, the church should not be forced to perform the marriage.

It seems like this proposition 8 is trying to add an "all or nothing" statement to California's constitution, when the reasonable solution is really a middle ground agreement.

Proposition 8 - Same-Sex Marriage

I agree with Daria after I did some research. I believe that the government doesn't have the right to handle this situation because, for the same reason they cannot force it on the churches to accept same sex marriage, the also shouldn't be allowed to force those few churches that will accept same-sex marriage (They do exist, I used to go to one), to not be able to do so. So, unless they can come up with a better reason, they will just contradict themselves.

Proposition 8 Same-Sex Marriage - Page 2

How about forcing public school children -- first-grade children, who are barely 6 years old! -- to learn that same-sex marriage is something to celebrate? Do you really think people want their children indoctrinated to something like this? Public schools should not sponsor field trips to witness same-sex marriages!

This is what we're fighting against. They have no right in a government run public school system to teach my child values that go against my own beliefs. It's NOT just about same-sex marriage, and it's not just about churches being persecuted for refusing to perform same-sex marriages. It's about government indoctrination of our children at these very young ages to accept values that *they* decide should be taught. This is *wrong*.

Edited: FarSeer on 16th Oct, 2008 - 7:07am

Proposition 8 Same-Sex Marriage Politics Business Civil & History - Page 2

You know, they can't really teach it in school, actually, and this may not be true, I'm only a senior in high school, but they never taught us about marriage. But, whenever the school cannot risk doing something (R-rated movies, discussing religions, and other personal opinions (aside from science)), they host some sort of after school activity, this allows you, the parent, to decide whether or not your child can go. But, I think Celebrating is an overstatement. Actually I take that back, Celebrating is something you do when your happy. So, if your teacher gets married, she can be celebrated by her students. Sorry if it isn't acceptable for you, but it is still at the parents desecration whether or not their kids can go. As for that article, it seems to be blown way out of proportions.