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Wow, how can he has the audacity to LIE in the way he does? It is just beyond me! He is now denying everything, on one hand he says in his last post here:

But then...

*shaking head* No matter how "smart" he tries to sound, how "spiritual" he tries to look to confuse people, ALL is a lie and because he is young (both in mind AND age) he contradicts himself in the most silliest of ways.

Well, like I said, another FALSE prophet have fallen.

Submission Amonhi

You know what! NEVER MIND! Your so right--it is nauseating at this point. I only moved it to this thread because it was made off topic on the other--I thought I was doing the right thing.

Don't worry LDS, I won't be the cause of your nauseating symptoms anymore after the next post.

Edited: AlaskanLDS on 17th Oct, 2008 - 7:13am

Amonhi Submission Studies Doctrine Mormon

I thought the topic was discussed ad nauseam and I thought in letting it die but since you bring it up again (for some reason) let me answer some of your points:

You mean, you felt the impression for you not to do it, right?

Something I always welcome is people who can be very straightforward, I love transparency! So if you feel we have been "self-righteous" in the way we have been handling this issue, just say so directly, it is not a problem. If you say you do not think so, then I do not see the purpose of that statement in connection with this issue?

I am glad to read this, which answers my first question within this post.

You seem to like to assume a lot. What gives you the impression someone may have been proud to show Jesus Christ this thread in the first place? With regards to the comment "another false prophet bit the dust", I stand by it and have no regrets. Definitely I try not to live by "trying to serve the Lord without offending the devil". Proof has been posted here with regards to his many lies and deceptions, even you have replied some of them such as masturbating with a hymn and encouraging others to sin. I encourage anyone who believes in Amonhi to speak to their Bishop and see if he will think or take into consideration the words of a man who encourages others to sin openly. I think we all know what that answer will be. Yet, I am fully aware we all have the wonderful gift of free agency and some people maybe able to discern more easily than others how these predators infiltrate so easily in our lives.

It's good to read this as well as I think that's the main issue you seem to have been affected in such a way by all this.

I think it was important for you otherwise you wouldn't even bring it up? It's good to read that apparently that changed since as you know, this community has nothing to do with who has more charm points or why they have been awarded. Everyone should be entitled to give them without feeling bad about it just because others do not agree or feel they should not be awarded in certain posts.

I think the word you was looking for was "challenged". As you well know, this is a Mature forum where when we write things, we are sometimes challenged based on our opinions, that's what debate is all about.

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Rather off topic, but... It doesn't cease to amaze me though how you assume I am talking about YOU and not in a general sense. I could care less anymore about whether YOU are self-righteous and trust me, I am not so "sensitive" that I could not be mature enough to call you on it, if it mattered. But it doesn't.

And NO! Challenged isn't the word that I am looking for. Funny you would think I care about the charms. I really am not that shallow! It was the message they carried not the freaking points themselves.

I DON'T encourage anyone to do that--because we are not in elementary school here. I don't need to go tattle on someone and reply back here that if my bishop thinks its a bad idea so that everyone can pow-wow around and pat each other on their spiritual backs. It's called common sense. I think my bishop would be sad that I thought I couldn't learn from someone that sins and felt I needed to tell him about his struggles. He would probably ask me to do some reading on the topic of PRIDE!

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And now that I think about it, I originally was talking about "me" having an impression about judging but in reality, Christ is the one who tells US that we should not judge. I could reference that for you but I am sure you can find it on your own, especially when it was so hard for you to tell whether it was actually me or Amonhi who was writing. I won't even venture it!

QUOTE from me--
I don't want to be part of tearing one down like that again, (that is me personally because I know I can be sensitive)

uhhh, yeah! The other thing is you think it was just me but I know there are a number of others who feel this way too and in our opinion we would rather err on the side compassion and non-judgment than whatever everyone else seems to be affected by. Just because a person has a sensitive spirit--don't mistake that for weakness!

IMO, there was nothing mature about this entire thread! But that will be my last opinion on here or anything else to do with matter. Your nausea should be clearing up anytime! And YES the sarcasm was needed--it is obviously the only way to get a point across!

Rather off topic, but... Guess I will be needing another temple visit...but I guess that has nothing to with this thread, right?

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AlaskanLDS, I am glad that you finally express how you *truly* feel about the issue of hand.

First of all, you posted a message within the thread that speaks about New Rules for the Mature board. When Persephone edited your post and corrected your offtopic, you decided to move the offtopic to this thread instead. Then when you get a reply from me on that post, you decide to erase your own post completely afterwards. How convenient. What are you so afraid of? You will notice though, parts of the message you erased still there because I quoted you when I replied.

Let me remind you of this rule that you seem you forgot:

That's why we have Bots and Mods, that's their job, they are the ones who decide those things. Persephone edited your post and left your offtopic but it seems it wasn't good enough for you that you thought in moving your offtopic elsewhere.

It seems like you are...hmmm...upset?. I tend not to reply when someone is so emotionally involved since when emotions run as high as you are expressing little or not reasoning is behind but just pure emotion. I suggest you to avoid threads like this in the future, the ones that you feel you cannot emotionally handle, it avoids issues like moving of threads, deletions of threads, etc that puts a strain on the moderation team as well as confuse members to see quotes from messages that are not even there anymore, this is a mature community where we debate topics in a mature manner, without all the emotion and extra-sensitivity issues to worry about.

Oh and by the way ad nauseam is a Latin expression used when a topic is discussed to the max, it doesn't really cause me "nausea".

Since this thread is moving towards another direction and the member Amonhi has been deleted, this thread fulfilled its purpose.

*Thread Closed*

Amonhi Submission

I am opening back this Thread mostly because the heated feelings of those who had access to this material has either left or no longer have LDS Mature access. Therefore if you want to review the Amonhi Doctrine feel free to do so.

Next point, I wanted to share an Update to say that even after these events the user Amonhi still comes here to Post as a Guest and sent my wife a couple of Emails despite her asking him to stop writing her. I had to actually block his Email from the server with the message "Rejected" so it would stop.

Amonhi Submission - Page 6

A lot of what Amonhi said on this forum made me think for a minute. But the big red flag for me was, his claim to mix the philosophies of men with scripture. As these latter days progress there will be more and more trying to deceive us. How can you claim to have your calling and election sure, and think that it's OK to mingle scripture with mans philosophies? And then offer to teach the prosess. NO THANKS !

Amonhi Submission Mormon Doctrine Studies - Page 6

You will be amazed at how some were so 'anxious' to indulge his teachings perhaps because he made it sound good - like getting passed the Church was a necessity and reaching to the 'second' heaven was a matter of listening to Amonhi doctrine. He is however one out of MANY who do this. They make statements that are really their own ideas but it is in fact merely their opinion with nothing scriptural really suporting their ideas. Check this Thread: Source 7