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Rather off topic, but... I know and was trying - Page 2 - Psychology, Special Needs, Health - Posted: 16th Mar, 2009 - 3:40pm

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Post Date: 5th Mar, 2009 - 2:41pm / Post ID: #

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Your failing to understand that while most people have principles that are well meaning in their eyes they can be viewed as evil in anothers. Principles are just how you look at things. Like love or hate. Being good in your opinion. Even thinking that what you believe is right.

Not all people have the same principles. Remember Hitler thought what he was doing was right. The rest of the world did not agree with him but there were quite a few that did. People in the middle east think it is right to own women. To many others this is wrong. You see principles are all about the perspective of the person. There is no one right or wrong set of principles.

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Post Date: 5th Mar, 2009 - 11:12pm / Post ID: #

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Might I refer back to the original quote?
"Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles."
Notice the use of the word 'you'.
This fits right in with your theory of all people having the same principles, because only the individual's principles need triumph.

9th Mar, 2009 - 6:06pm / Post ID: #

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One must ask though... Do principles change for the person? Or let me ask it this way... Do principles change based on the perspective of the person or is a principle unchanging in its meaning and only misinterpreted by others in application?

Let's take the principle of love for example. Through someone's eyes love might be beating someone's wife as many abusers do. The woman may actually think this is a form of love. For me that is not love in the least - it is abuse.



Post Date: 14th Mar, 2009 - 10:12pm / Post ID: #

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What I'm saying is that principles do vary from person to person. According to science, this is because of the person's environment and no direct fault of their own. While I do agree that environment is part of it, I also believe that one can change one's principles as they see fit, because they see it fit to do so.
As for beating one's spouse, I don't agree with it if it's not consensual. If it's done for purposes of a sexual nature, firsthand accounts tell me it is the height of passion. So to each his own.

14th Mar, 2009 - 10:48pm / Post ID: #

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You may have a perspective of something, but that does not mean it changes just because you see it in your own way. This is the same with love, love is love it has a definition and is in itself a principle. You are mixing something very different with your analogy and I will also say that we do not bring up such matters in the Public Boards, that is reserved for the Mature section.



16th Mar, 2009 - 2:37pm / Post ID: #

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This is a tricky one as I find yes you can have a principle based on personal experience and reasoning. Thus if you stick to it you think it will bring you good feelings but often this is not the case or it is a short lived one.

Why because you are breaking the "true principle or order" as dictated by nature or God. Now this is tricky as I do not desire to delve into religious principles here.

I do think some principle are a part or our humanity and when they are up held true peace is found. This I think is true as it is traceable through many different cultures thus it must be part of just being a human. I think in general one can say it s respect for life.

Think of people you know and are always happy what are they basing their life on and from that pull out their principles and compare them to one you know that is never happy. I think basic common threads will be found.



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16th Mar, 2009 - 2:41pm / Post ID: #

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Yes, this for me is a difference between the principle (unchanging) and whatever 'values' you set for yourself (some refer to that as principles but I do not agree that it necessarily has anything to the with 'the principle').

God or religion should not be brought up here as this is primarily about philosophy and not tenet.



16th Mar, 2009 - 3:40pm / Post ID: #

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Rather off topic, but...
I know and was trying to steer around it. I was just using that as an example or what I was trying to illustrate. Might be an example of needing a better vocabulary.


I am glad you understood the point I was trying to make. Often ones values change through life as they try to obtain the principle into their lifestyle.



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