In heaven Lucifer rose against God and fell out of favor and was sent with his followers to walk the earth.
In seven days God created earth and in the last days man. So does this mean God had time to start missing his favorite angle and tried to replace him with Man?
Or could Gods full intention be to recreate a large army in heaven so that he could finally come down and eradicate Lucifer for ever from their plane of existence?
I have ponder the time frame being the darkness is when it happened.
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In seven days God created earth and in the last days man. So does this mean God had time to start missing his favorite angle and tried to replace him with Man? |
That is a very positive thought about the free will in heaven. As if they do have free will and only one decided to rebel then it truly must be a desirable place to be.
I am curious though on the time of when it occurred as Satan was here at the time of Adam and Eve. I know they lived long lives but was Satan here first or mankind?
Satan had to be there first as he had already fallen from grace. Therefore he was in place to tempt mankind after they were placed in the garden.
It was his tempting of eve and therefore Adam that got us kicked out of the garden. It is Satans nature to tempt us by having us use our free will to go against gods wishes like he did to get thrown down. This is what makes following gods path so difficult down here. Satan knows our greatest weakness and will use it to draw us away.
I come from the perspective that a third part of the Angels were expelled at the time of the "Great war in heaven.
In Revelations we see a retelling of this rebellion by some of the Angels.
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3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. Â 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.... Â 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, Â 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Â 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. |
I also see that scripture foretells of Christ at that time. I hope we are not spilling this into a thread that already existed. I have seen where some say each chapter or day was 10,000 years long in geneses. I ponder is this the day light and dark were split on earth.
I still get the feeling man was created to fill a void perhaps it is the replacement of the fallen.
I hope Harkon reads that about the dragon it might help in his search as well.
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I still get the feeling man was created to fill a void perhaps it is the replacement of the fallen |
Rather off topic, but... These are interesting questions. From my perspective, I question the assumption that Biblically, Lucifer was a different type of being then Adam was (a spirit)? I also come from the perspective that Angels are humans who have not been to earth or who are resurrected Humans. If Angels are Humans (as I believe) who either have not been born yet or Humans who are Resurrected, this puts a new spin on the Adam/Lucifer relationship (I believe the fallen angels were humans who were denied the opportunity to be born, and thus they want to posess the Bodies that live her now). I don't expect the discussion to go that way, but I wanted to state up front what I believe. |
I do not believe that god has any voids. I believe that he has a plan but just what that plan is I have no clue. I am not sure I want to know as my head will probably explode from the mass of information.
I will make a comment on your off topic too. I do not believe the angels are human or ever were human. I think they are extraplanerary beings who do the bidding of God. I believe that humans are vastly different then the angels.