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16th Mar, 2009 - 11:41am / Post ID: #

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But even if it were a fraud, I'd still live it and love it.

I don't know if that makes sense to me. I understand what you mean by the following sentence after, but it nullifies it by this statement.

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I know this thread is a month old, and no one is probably looking at it anymore, but I have to respond...

Threads here are not considered 'old', information is always relevant, we do not operate as other Communities.



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Post Date: 16th Mar, 2009 - 5:51pm / Post ID: #

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I don't know if that makes sense to me. I understand what you mean by the following sentence after, but it nullifies it by this statement.


Good point. I agree that the statement seems contradictory-if I put such a high value on truth, then why would I continue to live according to what I would then know to be fraudulent. I guess that depends on what level the fraud applies. I believe all religions teach a degree of truth, but that all but one also teaches some falsehoods. If the LDS church were in the category of the latter, I could do myself no harm in complying with its truths.

Would I comply with everything that the covenant of membership requires? No. I would likely not pay tithing. I would not participate in by-proxy ordinance work. Those types of things would be truly meaningless. But living its fundamental principles would produce me similar benefit to that which I have mentioned already, and therefore I would be inclined to continue.

For example, I would still be honest, I would still support charitable causes, I would still be faithful to my wife, I would still not drink alcohol, etc. My peronsal experiences have shown me that those precepts are true and result in the promised outcome. And they would continue to do so, even if Joseph Smith had never seen God, or if the Book of Mormon were merely his contrivance. The product of living the LDS lifestyle is still cumulatively better than living without it, at least to me. And if it's a fraud, then nothing else matters anyway-due to the very nature of what it teaches in the first place.

16th Mar, 2009 - 6:03pm / Post ID: #

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I understand what you mean, but perhaps it could be stated differently given you are Posting the info for someone who is not a Member and it sounds like something robotic or brainwashed.

I could share more here about your thoughts, but this Board is not the place.



16th Mar, 2009 - 6:44pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (TheQuietMan @ 16-Mar 09, 1:27 AM)
But even if it were a fraud, I'd still live it and love it.

You would still live the principles taught in the Church but no longer a member or you mean you would still live it as a member of the Church regardless of whether is true or not?



16th Mar, 2009 - 8:18pm / Post ID: #

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If he meant living the values of the church regardless if the church continued to exist then he is right on the money. The church is just a nice place to gather with like minded souls. It is nice also as it can offer resources that individuals will find hard to accomplish on their own.



16th Mar, 2009 - 11:29pm / Post ID: #

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If I believed it to be a fraud, I could no longer attend and would definitely not live up to the standards that the church currently requires of me.

I would love to sleep in on Sundays, and there are too many sins that would easily sway me if I did not have some grounding to stand on (I believe this is true of any Christian). I believe in my case, I live the standards of the Church because I believe the Church to be the true Church of God. I would not be a part of it, unless I truly believed this it was headed by Christ. For me it it is a commitment that I take seriously.

If I didn't believe something strong in regards to my relationship to God (regardless if I found the truth in the LDS Church or some other religion), it would be much easier to live live life without regard to present or eternal consequences.



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Post Date: 30th Oct, 2009 - 3:46pm / Post ID: #

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I am glad I came across this topic. I have thought extensively about this subject. What if I found out that the LDS church was not true. Well, almost certainly I would continue on searching for the truth.

I have a little back story to help to understand where I come from. I was raised Baptist although never attended regularly. This had created a foundation in the belief of God but not necessarily of Jesus. However, I have had a very insatiable desire to learn as much truth as humanly possible. I have a question mark tattoo on my left arm to prove it. I have tried my hardest to be true to myself as much as possible without any bias dictated by my past experiences. Believe it or not, after researching and attending different Christian denominations (feeling the Holy Spirit for the first time in one), I eventually came closest to Eastern world religions for a brief period of time, most attracted to Buddhism.

But then I learned about the LDS church and found it's doctrine fascinating. It made sense and very clearly correlated with my "logical" thought processes about the properties of the Universe, man's potential and basic principles in general. It easily fit the current truth I had accumulated over time. Although logically sound and came close to what I was originally theorizing, I took the missionaries offer and prayed for it myself with an open mind, only wanting to know God's will and none other.

Now back to the point. What if I was wrong? This is my opinion and lately, I've thought a lot about. Not in doubt but more of a curious, almost virtual social experiment. I only know that which God has revealed to me. In all my doings and in all my truth seeking I have wanted God's will and not my own if there was a God. So in this logical sense, God would have deceived me. Or the only logical conclusion would be that there is no God and I had a disturbance of the mind.

I have had a good friend of mine that is not of my faith try to explain away my own personal revelations from God as a figment of my imagination or a little bit of a derangement of my mind. But I say, if there IS a God and I am seeking His will by trying to communicate to Him, how can he allow this to happen? Would a loving God allow me to be deceived by illusions of a fragile mind IF I was seeking His will and His will alone? I don't believe so. So if I were to find that I was wrong in my beliefs and in the LDS church, I would continue on my search for truth as I am still doing now. Even as a member, I still search for more and more truth both inside and outside of the church. Believe me, it's there.

4th Nov, 2009 - 12:05am / Post ID: #

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  Would a loving God allow me to be deceived by illusions of a fragile mind

If thats so. Then your in good company. A few 100 thousand members, and a slough of Prophets and Apostles. All good people, doing there best to serve the Lord.

Anyways, the way I took the question is "what if your wrong, and I'm right?"
So, if that really is whats being asked, then I say right about what?
I'm going to go on an assumption here, based on my own experiences, as I've heard this question before. It usually means that all you need to do is accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.
Well quess what ? I've done that. And then I did everything else the Lord asked?
So if I'm wrong, and I really didn't need to be baptised by someone with authority to do it (among other things). Then we are in the same boat. We both accept Jesus Christ as are personal Lord and Savior. But ,What If Your Wrong ?



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