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You obviously have not read through this Thread and do not know the answer. I am not looking for typical secular reasoning. This also reminds me of the Thread "Don't Ask that".

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I will probably sound insane but could it be that G-d sees these kids as collateral damage? Basically give people the freedom to choose WILL include these sort of scenarios?

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Maybe. If that is true then the next question will be is it worth it? Will you be willing to subject just one of your children to a life time of torture for the sake of something better down the road? What about millions of children? Not understanding eternity myself I cannot comprehend that as collateral damage.

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Comments: I have agreed with everything that TheQuietMan has said.

It's my belief that everything happens for a reason. Some children suffer horrible things because it is necessary. Maybe their suffering was necessary to give them a greater understand of what it means to suffer, so that they could better appreciate the goodness of righteousness. Or so that they could more greatly sympathize and make understanding guardian angels. Maybe a child's suffering inspires a person to great charity.

I don't know the particular reason for each child, but I know that each child suffers for a reason. Every person suffers for a reason.

If the savior did not suffer in the garden of Gethsemane then he would no be our redeemer, his suffering was necessary.

If a third of the hosts of heavens were not cast into outer darkness then we would not have any tempters, and could not be tried in mortal probation. Their suffering is necessary.

God lets suffering happen because it is a part of his plan. He let Adam choose to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil because if he had not fallen, and thus suffered, we could not be redeemed.

If we did not know sorrow, we could not know joy. If this was not so then we wouldn't have needed the fall of Adam, or the atonement. It's part of God's plan, and thus has a reason. We can suppose on the reasons, and in many cases we may suppose correctly.

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Necessary for what? How does a child get greater understanding of suffering if they do not know any different and become numb to it? We are not talking about an adult who has been put in a situation of abuse. We are talking about children here. Children as young as one year being sexually molested, tortured and starved DAILY. Then they are raised day after day like that, some are kept as prostitutes by their own parent(s). They reach a certain age and attempt to commit suicide or inflict what they know on others who may be younger than them. How is that necessary? How are they learning from that? How can you learn joy if you only experience pain?

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Comments: While in mortality they may not be able to compare, but their term in the spirit world will be much longer than their mortal probation. Maybe they can use that understanding there.

I believe The purpose of mortality is to learn and to be tested. A child who is tortured to death from birth obviously doesn't get much chance to be tested, thus their mortal probation was probably a learning experience.

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You are using a lot of "may", "maybe", and "probably" and that is not what I'm looking for. We all have opinions but my point is there is nothing I have seen yet that Doctrinally answers this. Additionally,

That does not make any sense. If the child does not get a chance to be tested then how can it be an experience? I suggest you read through this Thread from the beginning.

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As I was reading this case today I thought a lot about this thread and I just cannot possibly understand the reason kids are born in such awful circumstances. In this case, twin children born of a drug addicted mother, a pedophile father who sexually abused them and when you think they may get a break by going to the home of a loving adoptive couple, it turns out they're abusers too! And they tortured them daily in the most awful of ways and ends up killing one of them.

Why, why in the world would God allow such evil upon two innocent children? Being born to suffer, and die in the most horrible manner.