Krakyn Takes On A Pet Peeve.

Krakyn Takes Pet Peeve - Politics, Business, Civil, History - Posted: 5th Mar, 2009 - 8:37pm

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4th Mar, 2009 - 7:34pm / Post ID: #

Krakyn Takes On A Pet Peeve.

A lake near my parents called Wilcox lake was condemned some years back. It slowly degraded over time and I think it is time for the peons who started this mess to clean it up.

After speaking to a person inside Canada Inland Waters who I know from doing work there they lit a fire under me and I am hoping to chase this one down a bit further and thought it might be interesting to share this one with the world.

Why to push other to do the same and to keep me accountable in not dropping this one and getting lazy.

Here is the lay out the artimesa dump site has been in place 40 plus years and is located near the head springs to the Boyne creek river. I t runs from this large swamp which flood high in the spring through a small creek. It passes through several swamps and small ponds. It is used by farmers for various reasons. Once lively with fish it is black with dump run off I assume.

It then feeds this medium sized lake Wilcox. Google Ceylon Ontario it is about 2 miles south on wilcox road. the dump is located maybe 3 miles west on line 14 just south of HYW 4.

From there it runs back of Ceylon into Flesherton. In Flesherton it feeds a local mill pond that is used for swimming. (not too scary right). from Flesherton it runs east across hywy 10 north of hyw 4.

It then dumps into the Beaver river head waters. this is a major tourist attraction the Beaver valley. Major sport fishing used to be sought here so I assume it still is.

I have seen the fish here with cancer spots on them. How much longer will this be till a case of no fish?

Who can we hold responsible and who is going to clean this up or at least stop the flow of pollution into the water?

I am going to send this person a copy of this posting and they are going to get back to me. The lake was condemned by the ministry of natural resources back a few years ago and all fish died. Claims y a friend tell me they are now restocking it and all sign are removed. That is very scary to me. 5 years ago it said do not swim any cut that enters the water seek medical attention and there was a number to refer it to! Now it is ok to eat from here?

So you be t I have concerns and will try to chase this out and down the best I can. It will be a long run but I hope I am the person to follow it up. I think I am needing to other wise my contact with the person in CCIW would not have lead to this topic. I believe nothing happens with out reason.

Here is a map of the location.

Where Krakyn grew up

It does not show the creek I will try and see but it is at cr-14 just north of Old Durham road crossing. the dump is there as well.


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Post Date: 4th Mar, 2009 - 7:46pm / Post ID: #

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Sounds to me that there might be a cover up. Take a few vials down the the pond. Take samples from various spots around it. Take it to the closest college and have analyze what is in the water. That will tell you how safe the water is or is not. Many times you can get the college to test these amples free. Get the college kids to test the waters as a project to see if they are as safe as they say. Talk to people down in the beaver valley area. They might not know all of these fact and as a tourist area they do not want potential harmful water coming into their lake and ruining their businesses.

4th Mar, 2009 - 8:49pm / Post ID: #

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I think I can get the sample done free from CCIW and if I am real lucky they might do a bit of the work if I do the leg work. Sounds like they might be willing to guide me a bit on this. So that is a big bonus.

Here is a nice set of the rivers and water systems but the head water is still missing from Wilcox lake. Very interesting I think. Might be some over site followed along with cover up.

Source 8

I was lucky to be here growing up when it was still nice.


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Post Date: 5th Mar, 2009 - 3:00pm / Post ID: #

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I think you should do the leg work to make sure that it is safe for everyone. Get the local newspaper involved and see if they can find out why something that was bot safe suddenly became safe again. You may be surprised to hear some answers they can dig up. I bet this is political.

5th Mar, 2009 - 4:55pm / Post ID: #

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I have put the email in and asked here for some suggestions on where to take samples. Still likely frozen up there. I also think it could make for some nice mud samples.


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Post Date: 5th Mar, 2009 - 5:08pm / Post ID: #

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Yes if sediment is running from the dump site you can get a sample of the sediment where it enters the pond. This can be a great help too.

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5th Mar, 2009 - 5:11pm / Post ID: #

Krakyn Takes On Pet Peeve.

I am thinking we need to have a sample from the edges closest to the dump site of the swamp then I can grab some at the spots where that creek is near roads then again at the in let and out let of the stream.

Then again farther down stream at 5 or six spots. See if toxins can be traced from the dump and what new ones are added at the lake its self.

I would also grab one from the beaver river also to see if it pilfering that far.

Reconcile Edited: krakyn on 5th Mar, 2009 - 5:12pm


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5th Mar, 2009 - 8:37pm / Post ID: #

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God is very good to me this day. The person who had a freezer blow up who I helped to prove no power quality issues occurred is the same person who knew who what when and where this lake was and tested along with the contact person!

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I do know that Wilcox Lake has a history of water quality problems, and at least one algal bloom (I believe it occurred under the ice caused by a red-coloured planktonic cyanobacteria, species of which are known toxin producers (although I don't think that toxins were measured in this case). Have dug out a series of reports done by a consulting company that I highly recommend, Freshwater Research (https://www.fwr.on.ca/)  - I personally know Dr Nurnberg who was part of our research group at McGill University and who is well established in the field of nutrient management, and other surface water issues. I've also attached a rudimentary map (see attached). I recommend that your colleague contact Dr Nurnberg who has actually worked on this waterbody and would be a great resource.

Freshwater Research. 2003. Water quality trends of Lake Wilcox, 1986 to 2002. Report to Michalski Nielson Associates, Ontario
Freshwater Research. 2005. Water quality trends of Lake Wilcox, 1986 to 2004. Report to Michalski Nielson Associates, Ontario
Freshwater Research, 2000e. The Planktothrix rubescens bloom of Lake Wilcox (1998-1999): Determination of the causes and recommendations for future management. Report to the Town of Richmond Hill, Ontario.
Freshwater Research, 2000c. Limnological and management assessment of Lake Wilcox. Report to the Town of Richmond Hill, Ontario.
Gartner Lee & Freshwater Research 1996. Lake Wilcox remediation strategy. Report to the Town of Richmond Hill. 116 p. And Appendix.
Nürnberg, G.K. 1995b. Limnology, phosphorus modeling and in-lake restoration options for Lake Wilcox, Oakridges Moraine, Ontario. Report to the Town of Richmond Hill. 40 p. And Appendix.
Michalski, M. & G. K. Nürnberg 1996. Trophic state evaluation Lake Wilcox, Functional Servicing Plan, Study Areas A and B, OPA 129, Town of Richmond Hill. Report to the Town of Richmond Hill. 65 p. And Appendix.



I have some major reading to do me thinks. Proves the age old saying be careful what you wish for.

edited with a frown

I jumped the gun in Celebration this is not the right lake it was located by Richmond Hill. But a good contact just the same.

Reconcile Edited: krakyn on 5th Mar, 2009 - 8:47pm


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