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Then you're saying you're not in agreement with the words of our Prophets who are inspired by God to guide us in these latter days.

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Name: Rigmb

Comments: Ok I just happened upon this thread and was really surprised by some of the comments. The only real qoute was from Elder Widtsoe and only mentioned that he thought playing cards was a waste of time. All of the other "Qoutes" all seem to be along the lines of "I've heard from someone". I do not think that playing cards is evil. I think that the idea for that comes with the atmosphere that gambling usually has attached to it, for instance in a smoke filled casino surrounded by alcohol and sometimes prostitution like in the old west or Las Vegas. That is where I think a lot of the ideas about cards being evil came from. I don't think playing with chips is wrong or evil no more than using monopoly money is evil. Just because you play with chips does not mean it is gambling. As long as you follow the spirit and do not become excessively involved I do not see a problem with playing cards with friends or family in a clean, fun, and friendly atmosphere.

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do you see monopoly fake money in casinos or do you see chips? it doesnt matter whether the chips arent for gambling but the association that exists with gambling you know what am I saying?

follow the spirit to play poker cards? what are you talking about? listen I take that you like to play poker cards with friends and family and no matter what quotes are post here you wont change your mind I say good for you, you know what am I saying? free agency is the greatest gift of all.

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Name: Mark

Comments: RominaL - does that mean that you are opposed to the doctrine of the membership voting to sustain their leaders? I know that current tradition and practice to never question the leadership, ever, no matter what, and to mindlessly sustain them during every conference without hesitation, without thought, without pondering, just raise your hand, but doesn't that make a mockery of the procedures that were ordained directly by God?

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Where did I say that? Please quote.

Are you asking or are you stating? It seems like you have some grudges against the Church but let me tell you we love you because you're our brother in Christ and even though you may be lost it's never late to return. We will welcome you with open arms.

I don't agree that we have a tradition to never question the leadership but we do know as members that they were chosen by God in these latter days to guide us and teach us. If we are humble we will learn, if we're prideful we will rebel. Which side are you my brother?

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Comments: Bothers,

I am a recent convert and a very advanced poker player. The USA government has classified professional poker playing as an actual career. With the current boom in online poker playing it has been as big as video game these days.

People all over the world are fighting to get poker removed as gambling. Gambling is classified and games of chance and even President Hinckley classified gambling as a way of making money for doing nothing (slots, lottery etc.). The reason this is always such a hot topic is because people who do not understand the game of poker think it is like regular gambling and is a game of chance. I think we can all agree that poker is no game of chance because people make livings at it.

I know it sounds like I am defending it but infact I am still on the fence about poker. It is not all the addicts that people think it is. Some of the best people I have ever met were at a poker table. All the people out there are condemning poker should ask themselves do there kids waist endless hours on video games and if so what make them better then a poker player. I can assure you more high school student waist more time playing video games then they do poker and poker takes math skill and many other talents.

I know President Hinckley was concern about people wasting time playing poker when there time could be better spent doing other things like movies and daces and other wholesome things. I have player poker my whole life and I can say poker has always been wholesome. But like many people say it is the same as going to a movie. Movie cost more then most poker games, last only 2 hours and poker will last for 6 hours. You have a chance of making money, but when you are at the movie you make nothing. Remember that Ken Jennings missed three months of work risking his career to play on Jeopardy winning over 2millison dollars and the church stood behind him. Now if I go win 2 million on a weekend and do not risk losing my job which is better? Both take skill and stamina.

I believe poker is with all the other words of wisdom items. Science has shown that alcohol, caffeine, tea etc are good for you in small doses and bad for you in large doses. But the church cannot stand behind these things saying that they are ok knowing that people will abuse the substances. It is not that they are bad it is that they can become bad.

Poker for some is Black and White when really it is a grey area. Poker is condemned by many but does not meet the requirements of gambling that they are talking about. I do agree that online poker, slots, lottery, bingo and any other game that is a game of chance is bad and should always be bad. You should not be wasting money on anything that could be better spent.

I made more in poker this year then my investments in the stock market.

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I'm not sure I understand your point. Poker like any other game is a game of chance or in other words there may be a degree of skill but in the end there is an element of luck. It seems like you are trying to find ways to compromise your involvement with poker and still serve faithfully as a Member of the church. Generally the Lord has his own definitions about things and he does not rely on the technicalities of man's law. I don't know how strict your bishop is but he may have concerns about you solely earning a living from it. Dis you discuss this with him yet?

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I would have to agree with Joe I'm afraid. Although Ammon I do agree when you say there is luck in poker. But there is luck in all aspects of life... Or chance if you want to call it that.

I read about that Ken Jennings and the 2 million. He was gambling. He wasn't gambling with money. But with his career. But none the less that is gambling.

Surly it would have cost him something as well, He must of had to put some money forward. To get there, Travel costs maybe. And for that matter actually

Say you had to get to a job interview and get the train or bus. You would have to pay some money to get there. You are using money and gambling it on the chance of getting a job. The more jobs you don't get the more jobs you have to apply for, Meaning the more money is spent on getting to places. Also all them people saying no, could decrease the chance of getting a job Through feeling down.

The way to explain poker, can be used to explain all of life. And like Joe says its not black and white. Its not evil because such and such happens. Its got a lot of grey areas.

When ever I have seen the W.S.O.P I have seen people winning like 5million dollars plus. I remember someone giving away 80% of his winning to charity.

Also about how you don't learn anything from poker. It is a very social game. Unlike the internet or single player video games.

Just a few skills required or used in poker are....Social skill, Maths, Psychology, NLP(It helps if you know it)

If you see poker players playing the game professionally, making a living as a career. They has disconnected their side that is addicted to money. They don't have a need for money. Its good if they win, But not the end of the world if they don't so have massive self control over ones self.

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