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Coached teenage rapist to be freed

A baby-faced rapist coached to stalk and rape when he was 14 and who later raped his best friend in prison will be freed by December. Ref. Source 2

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From what I have read I think that this guy is a real risk to society once he is released. I would not be surprised to hear of a woman being raped soon after his release date. It does not sound like he was reformed at all. Too bad they can not keep him in prison longer but he served his full sentence.

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Sad thing is in a case like this, does anyone doubt that somewhere there is a psychiatrist who will be willing to testify that "it's not his fault, he doesn't have the ability to control his actions in this regard so he shouldn't be penalized"?

In our schools, there are kids with 'special needs' who have a disability related to behavior and the teachers aren't allowed to punish them for anything they do if it's related to their disability... Even if it includes throwing things at other kids, disrupting class, etc...

When did we get to the point that average people without some major problem don't have a right to exist without being harassed, hit, disrupted, etc?

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You are mixing apples with oranges, your comparison is absolutely absurd. You're comparing kids with chemical imbalances, brain disabilities and other related health issues with people who have BECOME criminals due to the experiences they have been put through by parents and caregivers. Please, as a mother of a special needs child do not speak about something you obviously do not know about.

Going back to the topic now, after reading the story it is alarming to know this man is going to be released. I recall another similar case and one state in the US thinking in institutionalize serial rapists/serial killers after they fulfill their sentence because they know most of them won't be able to change their criminal behavior. Maybe that's something New Zealand needs.

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And when he is let out, what are the chances of him offending again. Will he up the anti? These cases upset me, how many times do we here about rapists who get out of jail and then re-offend again and again. I don't know what the answer is. If we knew he had been rehabilitated, then perhaps but we never know.

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For me, they should be institutionalized. I think there is enough evidence to conclude that 99.9% of them re-offend.

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You are mixing apples with oranges, your comparison is absolutely absurd. You're comparing kids with chemical imbalances, brain disabilities and other related health issues with people who have BECOME criminals due to the experiences they have been put through by parents and caregivers. Please, as a mother of a special needs child do not speak about something you obviously do not know about.

LDS_forever: I'm not mixing apples and oranges... While I will never have your knowledge/experience with the subject, I have three qualified special education teachers in my family so I'm not completely uninformed on the subject.

I'm not saying the two groups of people are the same... I understand that special needs children and their families have challenges that they may have no control over whatsoever.

The only reason I brought up the school issue in the context of this article is this:

As has been discussed here, most seem to agree that the sex criminal is very likely to re-offend. Whether he/she has been coached/ trained/ abused/ whatever isn't the issue... It's the fact that if released from prison, they will probably harm someone through no fault of the victim. Therefore, as has been discussed here, there is a valid reason to consider keeping them separate from the rest of society even once they have served their time in prison.

Now, I realize that many people with special needs are not violent, and many of them have wonderful gifts to share with the rest of us. However, the ones I was talking about are kids who, for reasons unique to their particular case, are violent in class, throw things at, or hit other children. Sometimes this is because they aren't taking whatever meds might help this, sometimes it's because there aren't any meds that will help this, or any number of other situations.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't continue to do whatever we can as a society to help/ support/ take care of these kids and their families undergoing these challenges... But, in spite of all this, the situation (or end result) isn't all that different. Due to their disability, if they are likely to harm another kid in the class through no fault of the victim, I believe they should also be kept separate until such time as their violent tendencies are under control.

I can't put myself in your place, I don't have the experience to say I know how you feel, I hope and pray that I never will, but I do have the experience of having been a child in the victims shoes of other violent children in class so please don't say I don't speak from a position of knowledge... It's simply a different position than the one you are in.

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I agree with your LAST post, however that's not what you shared before when you said:

I could not believe that you was somewhat indirectly "complaining" of why a teacher is not allowed to "punish" a special needs child for something related to their disability. That's why I gave the answer I did.

But that's not the topic of the thread.

I agree, I think whether the person has been abused or have special needs, if they are hurting others to that extend then they need to be institutionalized.