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Obama's Health Care Initiative - Page 4

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If you currently have a health care plan, you wouldnt be fined. As Nighthawk says, if you are 18 (I am assuming a non-dependent) and without healthcare, then you would be fined.

This is why the health care insurance providers are on board (as long as there is not a government insurance plan). Basically, they are being told that they have to lower prices. Now since the insurance companies prime goal is not your health and actually is return to the investors of the company, that immediately gets them in a negative mode. However, the government then forces everyone to get insurance and they companies smile with glee at the prospect of all those uninsured becoming insured. Yeah...we will drop prices! It comes across as a win of the administration because they negotiated a price drop. For the people that use the insurance quite a bit (the older and the ones with young children), this is a deal. For those that wouldn't actually have insurance...well...let's just call it a redistribution of wealth. They are unfairly healthy...so they should help pay for the unhealthy ones. This goes the same for the deals that Obama was working out with the pharmaceutical companies. The administration says that they have to lower the price on their product. Initially, the balk at it but they agree when they can become the sole provider! Basically, the government would have wiped out the generic competition that was even cheaper than the newly agreed on price decrease coupled with the guarantee of millions of more customers!

Bottom line...as soon as the insurance companies are interested in helping, you should be vary weary. As soon as the majority drug companies want to get on board with helping decrease the price, you should be weary. Health insurance companies are not your friend...they are the friend of the stock holders.

Lastly, Carter is a insignificant, bitter, idiot, who knows more about destroying an economy that most of us will every know. Let's just hope he doesn't become a Czar of anything.


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Race 'not behind health protests'

Barack Obama rejects the idea that racism is the main factor behind protests against his planned healthcare reforms. Ref. Source 4

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Healthcare lies

Obama You'd think that liberals who want to overhaul the entire Healthcare system might have a few examples of hardships in the current system to highlight. There don't seem to be many stories out there -- well, that's not entirely true -- there are plenty of stories. The problem is, not many of them seem to be actually true. Here's one story of hardship told by Obama that was entirely false. Watch Glenn tell the story in the latest Beck Talks video blog: Source 3

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I found an interesting discussion of the proposed changes to the US health care system, from an economic point of view.

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It's crazy for a group of mere mortals to try to design 15 percent of the U.S. Economy. It's even crazier to do it in a few months.

Yet that is what some members of Congress presumed to do. They intended, as the New York Times put it, 'to reinvent the nation's health care system."

Let that sink in. A handful of people who probably never even ran a small business actually think they can reinvent the healthcare system.

Politicians and bureaucrats clearly have no idea how complicated markets are. Every day, people make countless tradeoffs in all areas of life based on subjective value judgments and personal information as they delicately balance their interests, needs, and wants. Who is in a better position than they to tailor those choices to best serve their purposes? Yet the politicians believe they can plan the medical market the way you plan a birthday party.


I am currently enrolled in a graduate level economics class. I have also read some of the Austrian Economics philosophy. These things have really shown me a lot about these proposed changes to the US health care industry.

Any time that government interferes in economic matters, it causes severe problems. Every time government places price floors on something, it causes surpluses. Every time government places price ceilings (which is the basis of the Obama plan) it causes severe shortages. Read the article. It is eye-opening.

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Obama's [Healthcare] Photo-op

It was quite a lame attempt to convince America that doctors are indeed behind Obama's healthcare plan. That's the only possible explanation for 150 random doctors, in a grassroots fashion, showing up at the White House dressed in their white doctor's coats. The other explanation is this was a completely staged photo op that was a complete insult to the intelligence of the average American. Glenn's thoughts on doctor-palooza at the White House. Ref. Source 7

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An Obama Victory

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate Finance Committee has approved a sweeping remake of the country's health care system, delivering a long-sought boost to President Obama's goal of expanding coverage. The 14-9 vote by the key panel sets up a debate on the Senate floor and moves a health care remake closer to reality than it has been for decades. Ref. USAToday

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Senate Pro-Life Advocates Will Re-Introduce Amdts to Remove Abortion in Health Care

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The pro-life lawmakers who led the fight to stop the massive abortion funding in the Senate health care bills during committee consideration plan to reintroduce their amendments on the Senate floor. Members of the Senate Finance Committee and the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee rejected the pro-life amendments during the consideration of the Baucus and Kennedy health care bills. The amendments were defeated on largely partisan votes with most Democrats voting against them and most Republicans voting for them. Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican who is a member of both committees and saw his amendments go down in defeat, says he is bringing both of them back on the Senate floor. The first amendment would make sure that no taxpayer funds from the health care premiums Americans send to the federal government could be used to pay for abortions and the second would prohibit federal or state governments or health plans that receive federal subsidies "from discriminating against physicians or health facilities that do not offer abortion services." The first measure ensures the health care bill does not include taxpayer-financed abortion while the second provides conscience protections for medical professionals who do not want to be pressured to do abortions or make referrals for them. Sen. Jon Kyl, a pro-life Arizona Republican,is also expected to reintroduce his amendments to ensure that the final legislation does not include rationing.

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