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FBC said:

Actually, I didn't read it that way, but that homosexual behavior causes hormonal differences in the body, which ultimately causes physical changes in the brain. I'm still waiting for information from the radio station to find out what study he was referring to.

Unferth said:

I used to say this exact same thing! But I came to realize I was wrong. This is a big part of the problem. We should care.

No, it's not irrational. You are uncomfortable because it is wrong.

In my opinion, of course.
Roz

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Some quotes from the article that FarSeer referenced:

This is why I read it as a hormonal imbalance that caused the change. The rats were castrated and giving certain hormones. So, it looks like hormonal changes were made that then affected the size of the brain.

If this is the case, then it would follow that homosexuality is not a natural state but a medical condition which could and probably should be treated.

From a practical point of view this sounds more plausible to me than that the behavior caused the change. I have spoken to homosexuals who say they were always attracted to the same sex. That they knew at a very young age that they were different. This may not be the case for all homosexuals, but if a hormonal imbalance is the cause, this would make sense.

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I feel uneasy about the "Be homosexual but keep it secret" hidden agenda I seem to see in this thread. If you stay in the closet, your chances of meeting the right person and identifying him or her as such are rather drastically reduced, aren't they? Imagine life with the roles reversed - "OK, be straight if you want to, maybe God even wants you to, but I don't see why I have to know about it. Keep it to yourself, it's a private matter...." A lot of us would be condemned to rather lonely lives that way, I think.

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I am not sure what comments made you infer that there was a hidden agenda FierceKitty. Maybe you would like to quote the comments that made you feel this way. I believe the main intention of the thread is to garner some perspectives on whether people are born gay or choose to be gay, even if the choice is unintentional. What are your thoughts on that?

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Well, I think you'll have to agree that terms like "birth defect" carry a bit of a load of interpretation. You'll find it among the posts.

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I don't believe that is what this thread is about at all. This is a discussion of whether or not people believe being gay is a choice or something you are born being. If you find a particular statment you take issue with, please use the quote tags so that we can see the exact words used and then add your thoughts to the the discussion. If you don't know how to use the quote tags, check out the FAQ's or click on the phone home tab.

I would like to know if you feel being gay is a choice or is something people are born being. You still haven't shared your beliefs on that matter and why?

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I have finally finished reading the ten pages of previous posts and have researched the issue my self. I took the time to talk to some of my gay friends and see what they think. I took the time to ask my non-gay friends what they thought also. The result was not only varied, but very biased and divided. Most of my gay friends said they where born that way. One of them told me a story about abuse my her uncle, brother, and father and that was why she hated men and was attracted to women. The other three gave me no indication of abuse of any kind, one I grew up with and never saw abuse. He is close with his parents to this day and they accept him.

My non-gay friend however, all said that it was a choice because no guy would want to have sex that way (sorry, trying not to be too blunt.). They completely disregard the idea that it was innate and said it was completely choice. My parents believe that every gay person was either abused as a child, or seduced as a teenager. I don't believe that anyone that I talked to is completely right.

Like all issues in society, there are norms, conditioning, and exceptions the rule. This issue is no different. I believe the norm in the gay community is that they where born gay. I don't know if its genetic or if its sociological or something entirely different. But it has been happening for years, its just easier to come out now then it used to be. I believe that there are some people who are gay because of the conditions in which they grew up in. There are probably situations in which people where abuse and ended up gay because of it. Then there are the exceptions to the rule. Teen agers seduced into the fold so to speak. Teen agers are so rebellious and stubborn that they do what ever makes them feel good. therefore, I don't think that there are too many cases in which this happens. But I'm sure there are some.

Earlier in the thread, this comment was made.

Life always finds a way. Breeds of frogs have adapted to being asexual as to not need even another mate to produce off spring. There is a breed of lizard in the desert that kills its males and has almost completely wiped out the male population. All females now produce only female off spring. Some how the species continues to thrive, but scientists don't know how. Man would be no different. We would evolve and adapt and find a way to survive. To be sure, we would take heavy loses, but I believe we would find a way to continue to procreate. Life changes every day, whats to say that being gay is not just another step in the evolutionary ladder? I believe that it is a mere side step, people are, for the most part, born gay.

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I haven't expressed a view on the subject of whether it's inborn or chosen because I'm not a genetic scientist, not a psychologist, and am far from convinced that the terms of the debate have been defined clearly. I avoid forming opinions on subjects where my data aren't reasonably solid.
What I do understand, as a language expert, is the implication of terms like "should". Let alone "wrong". Humility is the mother of all the virtues.