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Abortion Roe vs. Wade - Global view on Abortion, Abortion Laws, Personal Experiences, etc. Some countries allow abortions and others do not but the heated debate is most apparent in the united States where some are for and against it. What is your view?
1st Mar, 2006 - 12:30am / Post ID: #

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I think we need to shed a little bit more perspective on the topic of abortion in south Asia.

There is no doubt abortion happens on some occasion for the cultural reasons as I have mentioned above. And there are always going to be ugly incidents as there are all over the world. But life in these countries has a very different meaning to what it does in the West.

India has over 1 billion people. Most families have a minimum of four to five kids, even more in the lower class, which is a majority.

India does not have the resources to sustain its swelling population. Poverty in India is comparable to struggling African countries. A lot of children will not live to see their 5th birthday.

The most affluent city, Mumbai, is home to the world's largest slum.

These people are extremely poor and struggle to feed themselves let alone their children. If they can not afford to feed another mouth, then what should they do?

Contraception is NOT accessible to most parts the country. The poor couldn't afford it at any rate.

The decision is to either bring another child into the world that doesn't have a hope for any sort of life. Or, chose a child who costs less to raise and could one day support the parents, as is customary in Asia. What would you do?

Orphanage homes in India can not possibly cope with demand, these kids are confined to the streets, I"ve seen some try to eek out an existence raiding garbage tips.

I agree with the choice of abortion because I don't believe in bringing children into the world to spend a life begging on the streets.

As far as I"m concerned, a 4-year-old living on a median strip on a busy city road, naked, covered in soot, and begging for a pittance just to survive, is worse than death.

India is one of the most devoutly religious countries in the world. Religion is often all these people ever have. Abortion is not a decision against their faith, It is literally a matter of life and death.

Offtopic but,
On the topic of culture. India has one of the most beautiful people in the world. They are extremely gentle, warm and genuine. The people have more spirit than any other place I have ever travelled. The problem of is not India's culture.



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Post Date: 7th Mar, 2006 - 2:36am / Post ID: #

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Abortion Not Allowed!

Gov. Mike Rounds signs legislation banning nearly all abortions in South Dakota, The Associated Press reports.
Ref. CNN.com

7th Mar, 2006 - 4:00am / Post ID: #

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It is well known this is simply a ploy to get the Supreme Court involved and possibly overturn Roe vs Wade. However, the Supreme Court may decide this issue is best decided by the States and allow the legislature to pass in South Dakota. Then the US will end up having some States where it is legal and some where it isn't, which is exactly what happened with Same Sex Marriage, before it was shut down completely. This is why I strongly believe the Supreme Court needs to make a final ruling as to whether abortion will be made illegal or not; it will be better in the long run if the entire country has to enforce the same rules. All my humble opinion, though.



7th Mar, 2006 - 1:52pm / Post ID: #

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Then the US will end up having some States where it is legal and some where it isn't, which is exactly what happened with Same Sex Marriage, before it was shut down completely.


That is exactly what I do want to see. I don't believe that there is any reason at all for this to be controlled at the Federal level. It should be up to the states to decide. However, pro-abortion activists KNOW that if this issue is left up to the will of the people, abortion will be severely restricted in all places, and many states will not allow it at all. That is what a democratic Republic is about.

Comparing this issue to same-sex marriage is also misleading, because states are required to recognize contracts of various sorts even if they are made in a different state. So, if one state recognizes and performs marriage, and another state doesn't, it creates some legal problems for both states.

Abortion, on the other hand, is an act. It is not a contract. What is done in one state has no effect in another.

Except for the fact that women do die at times from the procedure, and if a woman leaves one state and goes to another, and is killed by the procedure, then there are all sorts of questions that will come up.

That leads to another point. If the states are allowed to control abortions, it is quite likely that places that perform abortions will finally get some oversight. Licensing, inspections, strict accounting, and patient auditing are all things that the abortion industry is afraid of, and desperately in need of.



7th Mar, 2006 - 2:36pm / Post ID: #

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Don't get me wrong, I am against abortion. My fear is that if the abortion is left up to the States, then it will lead to what Nighthawk referred too about women leaving one State to have an abortion in another. I don't believe that is addressing the problem at all. Which is why I would like to see the legislature enacted at a Federal level, rather than by the States. As for abortion clinics, why even bother with stricter licensing and inspection, when we can do away with them altogether? If abortion is made illegal at a federal level, then we bypass the extra cost of having to monitor and inspect these abortion clinics, and in the end, I believe we can use that money to address the adoption system so that adoption can be easier.



7th Mar, 2006 - 10:17pm / Post ID: #

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I don't think it is possible to completely outlaw abortion at this time. Allowing individual states to do so is a step in the right direction though.

What has always bothered me is that Roe v. Wade is, IMO, a direct assault on the 10th Amendment. The Federal government has no right, under the Constitution, to make any rules regarding abortion. That is as true of the courts as it is of Congress. Of course, the courts have no right to create law in the first place, yet Roe v. Wade is essentially the law of the land.

That is why I want to see Roe v. Wade overturned.



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8th Mar, 2006 - 5:15am / Post ID: #

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I am amazed that the abortion law in the US is solely reliant on one precedent case. Can someone please explain to me Roe vs Wade and the reason why we keep hearing about it when the abortion topic props up in the US media.

I agree with Nighthawk in part. I don't think you can remove abortion, it is a medical procedure that is here to stay. So if positive steps can be taken to regulate the industry then that should be the major issue here.

If abortion is banned in some states, but allowed in others, there is no doubt people will just travel to have the procedure. But I think abortion can be made safer and adequate counselling more accessible. Counselling is often one area of abortion that is sorely lacking and in desperate demand for patients.

As for courts creating laws, I believe there must be some flexibility in the judicial system to alter laws on a case by case basis. I am not sure if Roe vs Wade is an example, could someone please explain.



8th Mar, 2006 - 5:41am / Post ID: #

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Arvhic,
Here is a link on the Roe vs Wade case, which by the way, was set all the way back in 1973. In a nutshell, Jane Roe, was a single woman who became pregnant, and through the Supreme Court system, fought for the right to abort her unborn baby with the assistance of a licensed physician. The Supreme Court ended up ruling that fundamental right of a woman to choose whether or not to have children was protected by the 9th through the 14th Amendments, and that current law in Texas was too vague and infringed on these rights. It basically set the precedence for future bans on abortion, and is the largest roadblock to pro-lifers who want to see abortion banned in the US.

I don't see why abortion can't be done away with, simply because it is a medical procedure. Assisted suicide could also be deemed a medical procedure, but that doesn't mean it should be allowed. Roe v Wade will simply need to be overturned completely for any legislature on abortion to make any impact, because, as has been stated previously, women will just go to States that allow abortion if they live in one where it is illegal. Yes, this will be an inconvenience for many, but still is not a solution, in my opinion.




 
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