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Poll: Which statement is the MOST true for you with regards to the Israeli vs. Palestine conflict?
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  Israel is a terrorist State       10.94%
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  Palestine is a terrorist State       23.44%
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  Palestine has no claim on anything since the last war       6.25%
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  Israel should withdraw and allow Palestine to become a State       9.38%
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  Israel is only doing what the USA wants       3.12%
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  Palestine is only doing what the Islamist want       1.56%
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  Both people are equally blood hungry       10.94%
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  Both people really want peace but are blind       9.38%
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  Israel owns the Middle East       1.56%
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  Israel does not belong in the Middle East       9.38%
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  Palestine are angry because they were conquered       1.56%
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  Palestine was there first and deserve their land       12.50%
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Palestine Statehood Who Is Right? Should Palestine be its own soverign nation state? Why is the USA attempt to block this from happening? Is Israel using an apartheid system much like South Africa did where people are segregated into undesirable areas and become unable to access the basic necessities of life? Does Israel have a point that they have major security challenges against those trying to harm them? How can this be resolved or will it ever? Will there be a Palestine state?
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Post Date: 9th Apr, 2004 - 10:59pm / Post ID: #

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NightHawk, I'm quite familiar with the history of the Palestinian People and it does not stop in 1973. History is always in the making, you may not like it, you may not agree, but modern history dictates that Palestinians are a People and that the Gaza Strip and the West Bank is their land and is currently illegally occupied by Israel and that is a FACT. Why is believing that Palestinians are a people with a country that is occupied anti-Jewish ? If I disagree with US foreign policy does that make me anti-American, if I have the odd big Mac does that me an American??? I have trouble following the logic to your arguments

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10th Apr, 2004 - 12:04am / Post ID: #

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To me it is fine for Palestine to become a county, but only under the condition that the militants stop the terrorism, but since you and I both know this will NOT happen - what do we do? Make them a state anyway? Help them have a military so they have a better chance of fighting back?

According to one web site: 'We want peace but we do not want this peace process'
Ref. https://www.hejleh.com/countries/palestine.html
This web site seems detailed in that it also has a lot of links for study.

Nighthawk, that is interesting how the Israeli army fought all those countries at once, do you think it was US tactical skills training or equipment that helped this? (We did have a discussion on this before, but I cannot remember where)

Offtopic but,
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I disagree with US foreign policy does that make me anti-American, if I have the odd big Mac does that me an American???

I have been accused of that here, but I believe because the US has so much 'hands' in everything that it is difficult to get away from having a point of view every time a world event comes up.



10th Apr, 2004 - 2:32am / Post ID: #

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but modern history dictates that Palestinians are a People and that the Gaza Strip and the West Bank is their land and is currently illegally occupied by Israel and that is a FACT.

I don't understand how this is a fact. If you are going to say that Israel is illegally occupying the West Bank and the Gaza strip, then you must also agree that Canda is illegally occupying the whole country!

When a country takes land in war, especially after being attacked by the country they have taken the land from, ALL OF HISTORY shows that the country keeps it! This is the ONLY time in history where the victor is expected to bow and scrape to the subjects of the losing country.

How can Israel be illegally occupying a country that has never existed? What type of government did this mythical country have? Was it a monarchy? Is Arafat the long-lost grandson of the Palestinian monarch? Or was it a oligarchy? What type of economy did it have?

Obviously these questions are facetious. There is no answer for the simple reason that the "Palestinians" are Jordanians. Since Jordan doesn't want them, and is afraid of them, all of you, yes, you specifically, the globalist socialists, want Israel to just give them that little bit of land.

The only problem with that is - Israel gave it to them. Arafat rejected it, and restarted his reign of terror. Yes, Israel rejected giving up the Golan Heights, as it is strategically the most important single bit of land in the region. If Hezbollah gets it, then almost all of Israel's citizens sit under Syrian guns. Not AK-47s, but the big guns. The ones that shoot 10s to 100s of miles.



Post Date: 14th Apr, 2004 - 7:18pm / Post ID: #

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I believe its tomorrow that Bush meets with Sharon.

It will be interesting to see if Bush will go against all conventional wisdom and support Sharon's plan to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and in return maintain the 200 plus illegal jewish colonies in the West Bank

President Hosni Mubarik of Egypt has stated to President Bush his non-agreement to the Plan and Tony Blair advised Bush that to accept the Sharon plan would not be well received in Europe.

If the US is to gain any credibility, it most demonstrate far more neutrality and objectivity in this conflict. Only the US has the means of getting the peace process back on track and to do so, the US will have to be firm with Israel.

Post Date: 17th Apr, 2004 - 6:20pm / Post ID: #

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Abdel Aziz Rantisi, leader of Hamas in Gaza, was badly wounded today when his car exploded in Gaza City Ref. CNN

Post Date: 17th Apr, 2004 - 7:50pm / Post ID: #

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I believe that any two people who agree to open-mindedly listen to each other's point-of-view and who continue sharing back and forth can resolve any disagreement without contentiousness. Using this proposition as a starting point, if the Israeli and Palestinian non-politicians who want peace (and there are many) would keep talking, planning, and organizing, it's possible they could bring about a solution that would bypass the politicians. starblue.gif' /><!--endemo-->  </p></div>



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17th Apr, 2004 - 8:07pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (lovellectual @ 17-Apr 04, 3:50 PM)
if the Israeli and Palestinian non-politicians who want peace (and there are many) would keep talking, planning, and organizing, it's possible they could bring about a solution that would bypass the politicians.

I would tend to agree with you. And, at times, they have made great progress towards this very thing.

Recently, I read a story about an old Jewish man who braved the violence to travel weekly to a Palestinian Arab village to trade. He would take the handicrafts and other products that the Arabs had made into Israel, and sell them, and bring back all the things that the Arabs had ordered. The villagers loved him. He loved them. One day, while visiting the village, a stranger, dressed in the "uniform" of the PLO, walked up to the old man and shot him in the head. After all, it isn't allowable for any Palestinian to deal in any way, with any Jew. That is a rule that has been in place, and thoroughly enforced by voilence for the last 20+ years. And any Palestinian who does deal with Jews, or suggests that there might be a peaceful solution other than genocide of the Jews is murdered.



Post Date: 18th Apr, 2004 - 7:01pm / Post ID: #

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And it is forbidden for a jew to marry a Palestinian. Would you not call this racism??

Once again, against unanimous condemnation by the international community. include England, of the assassination of the Hamas leader by Israel, the US confirms its 100% agreement with Israel.

How will now be possible for the US to be seen as a credible and trustworthy player in the middle east?? If the US continues on this track,it will soon loose the vital support and cooperation it is getting from several Arab states.

Who is advising Bush on foreign policy??

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