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TRANSFER KHADR TO CANADA, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL - Page 18 - Politics, Business, Civil, History - Posted: 15th Jun, 2007 - 2:06pm
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Nine months is all you get for this level of treason?
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| Australian Guantanamo detainee David Hicks has been jailed for nine months, after pleading guilty to a charge of supporting terrorism. |
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He cut a deal! He withdrew his allegations of abuse against the US, pled guilty, and now he's getting a slap on the wrist. This makes me sick.
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| Guantanamo Prisoners: Justice or Revenge US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said that Al-Qaeda and Taleban prisoners being held under maximum security at the Guantanamo naval base in Cuba are being treated humanely. However, the Pentagon says the detainees are not prisoners of war (POWs) protected by the Geneva Conventions and describes them as "unlawful combatants" instead. Human rights groups and some British parliamentarians insist that the detainees should be treated as POWs. |
Both sides are wrong. The US government is correct to point out that unlawful combatants are not accorded all the rights of POWs.
However, the US government seems to think this means unlawful combatants are not covered by the Geneva Conventions at all. This is wrong. They are covered by a different section of the Geneva Conventions than covers POWs, but they are covered nonetheless.
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| Red Cross International and Amnesty International said that the conditions of the people being held in Guantanamo are 'inhuman', they have been held for more than two years without any kind of rights to contact their families or lawyers or judges. |
The primary difference between the rights of a POW and the rights of a detained unlawful combatant is that POWs have the right to communicate with the outside world, while unlawful combatants may be held incommunicado for security reasons.
That said, any abuse of the detainees that occurred was a clear violation of the Geneva Conventions.
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| I think they should all be released. I believe, the primary reason we don't refer to them as POWs is we would have already had to release them! I think, we need to either charge them with some crime and set a trial date or let them go. |
The laws of war say we can hold captured enemy fighters until the end of the war. There is no requirement that we give them a trial in order for us to do this.
We only need to try them if we want to hold them even after the war has ended, or if we want to execute them for killing US soldiers.
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| The term illegal combatants was US invention in order to circumvent international law. |
Not really. The distinction between legal and illegal combatants is very much a part of international law.
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| If a uniform is the criteria, what about the CIA, FBI and those private enterprise individuals/consultants fighting for big bucks? |
They too can legally be detained incommunicado.
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| I did a little more reading yesterday. You are right, they aren't POWs. They are illegal combatants. That is, they don't (didn't) wear the uniform of the enemy, they targetted civilians, and they don't belong to the organization of any of the combatant nations. Therefore, they are, essentially, international criminals. The Geneva Conventions deal with war between nation-states. So far, there isn't really a definition of how to deal with illegal combatants of an ideology that has declared war against a nation-state. |
Well at a minimum they'd be protected by the basic rights of international customary law. But a good case can be made for them being covered under Geneva 4.
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The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to hear the case of Canadian Omar Khadr and another Guantanamo Bay prisoner who want to challenge the legality of military commissions. The court's 4-3 decision against hearing the challenges was released on Monday.
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U.S. DIVULGES NEW DETAILS ON RELEASED GITMO INMATES
The Pentagon on Monday released the names of six former Guantanamo detainees who U.S. officials say re-emerged as Islamist fighters in Afghanistan after their release from the U.S. military prison in Cuba.
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TRANSFER KHADR TO CANADA, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL URGES
Canada stands almost alone as a country that has "abandoned" its citizens in the U.S. military's Guantanamo Bay prison, Amnesty International charged Thursday, presenting an open letter demanding Ottawa act to repatriate Omar Khadr.
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