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JB: China was cool with April's missile - Page 42 - Politics, Business, Civil, History - Posted: 29th May, 2009 - 11:42am

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Poll: The North Korea affair can be summed up in this...
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  North Korea needs to be invaded and taught a lesson       30.77%
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  North Korea has been allowed to grow up as a bully       10.26%
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  The USA has been too lenient with North Korea       7.69%
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  China has allowed North Korea to get out of hand       2.56%
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  Countries in the region need to stand up to North Korea       17.95%
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  North Korea is just playing the field       7.69%
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  North Korea is doing what any isolated sovereign nation would do       12.82%
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  North Korea is really trying to be reunited with South Korea       2.56%
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  If North Korea is pushed too far they will rain missiles on Japan       2.56%
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  North Korea has serious military might that can cause WWIII       5.13%
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27th May, 2009 - 12:22pm / Post ID: #

USA vs North Korea - Page 42

You have a an interesting thought there about it being a method to appease the military personal the might band to over through the sons when they come to power. If they are playing with toys and strutting like peacocks they will be more content with the change of power. The second thing that came to my mind was it is also an opportunity to test their toys and let the world know they have them. I do not see a quick change from this strutting they are doing right now. In the next five years they may back down a tad but not in the next two.


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27th May, 2009 - 7:16pm / Post ID: #

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Technically the North Koreans have resumed the Korean war by abandoning the 1953 armistice.

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So while no official declaration of war has been given, the abandonment of the cease fire that ended the Korean War is a sure sign that South Korea, the United States and North Korea are heading for a full Scale war. This time however the United States might just take out the North Korean Army with a few Nuclear warheads, Demand surrender and then take out the leadership in Pyongyang the capital of North Korea with a nuclear warhead or two.


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27th May, 2009 - 7:59pm / Post ID: #

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This time however the United States might just take out the North Korean Army with a few Nuclear warheads...

I very much doubt that. No one would accept that on any side unless North Korea first fired its missiles at an intended US target. I really hope this is firing for effect, I do not think anyone can afford another big drive in oil prices.


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27th May, 2009 - 10:37pm / Post ID: #

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Unfortunately, any attack on the South Korean Border by North Korea would involve the death of many more American Soldiers then in the Iraq war. Considering the way the US press

I am not sure the American People would support a conventional war with North Korea. That is why I think if it came to war the Nuclear option is always there for the United States.


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27th May, 2009 - 11:10pm / Post ID: #

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Thing is... If you nuke North Korea then China will likely retaliate. North Korea is too closely aligned with China and is also on her border. Really, it is up to China to 'do something' about this.


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28th May, 2009 - 1:06am / Post ID: #

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That is why China has stepped up and joined in the condemnation of the actions. What N.Korea is doing right now is not just a slap in the face to the Western world. It is a slap in the face of China, who was supposed to be a controlling force on N.Korean actions. This obviously shows that China has little more sway with the Dear Leader's actions than the US or the UN. They are basically ticking off everyone...

With this go it alone attitude, can they really bank on China backing them or actually more importantly sealing their northern border? China has a international interest today for their economy. This is WAY different than in the 50's. Back then China was worried (for really good reasons) that the US would just keep traveling north after they conquered N.Korea in the war. That threat is not present today.

They have used up all the normal threats...restarting nuclear facilities, shooting missiles, detonating nuclear devices, etc... They have used up the normal cachet of tools at their disposal for the brinksmanship they are famous for over the last 3 decades. Now they come back to the a threat that has also been used in the past...resumption of the war. They have done this periodically in the last 3 decades, but it doesnt usually work as well as the old and more trusted threats. This usually ends up in at least one actual military conflict...typically on the seas or in the air.

They have multiple times have said they are no longer bound to the armistice that stopped the fighting. The time prior to this weeks was only a few months ago.

The only way Obama would nuke anything is if it nuked first. Even if they proped something up on a launch pad, we would hit it with a really strong conventional missile. S.Korea is not the same as it was back in the 50's either. N.Korea would meet much more resistance on an initial march into the area. I actually believe if they ever did anything like it they would run over to Incheon first and there they could be had by a strong upward thrust from Taejon. Most of our military is now positioned in the center and southern S.Korea.

One other idea came to mind yesterday. Maybe they want the same relationship or rather similar benefits to becoming part of the nuclear club. India and Pakistan were sternly warned, threatened and challenged when they were developing their capability. After they joined the club, look at the benefits they got and the status. I really believe it is this or plans for a leadership change that is spurring this.


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28th May, 2009 - 5:37pm / Post ID: #

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North Korea has officially withdrawn from the treaty. They have also threatened to attack any ship that tries to board or to stop their own vessel movements - civil / military. Lastly, they say they are preparing for an eminent attack by the US.

Vincenzo, from what I understand China actually gave North Korea for these tests.


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29th May, 2009 - 11:42am / Post ID: #

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China was cool with April's missile launch. The UN Security Council has unanimously condemned the recent nuclear detonation and missile tests.

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China, which is said to have agreed in principle to sanctions, has no instructions yet and is sending various proposals back to Beijing. The suggested list includes tightening sanctions imposed in October 2006 (resolution 1718) but never really enforced. Three Pyongyang firms (Korea Mining Development Trading Corp., Korea Ryonbong General Corp. And Tanchon Commercial Bank) are on a U.N. Blacklist and more may be added. Some nations also want embargoes on Pyongyang's banking ties as well as flight restrictions and travel bans on designated officials.

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China's and Russia's unwillingness to put any serious statement behind April's missile launch by the N.Koreans is not happening this time. There will be sanctions/resolutions with this slight. China appears to have basically worn thin of Kim Jong Il's inability to work and play well with others.


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