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Why the heck does the US host, promote and ask them for stuff then?!

Beats me!
I would run them out of New York, close down the building, and let them go off to France and whine.

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I strongly thinks that the United Nations function should be only of humanitarian help, there are so many countries around the world with needs of food, shelter, medicine...it would be so great that all countries united in one body like the UN can help to relieve those pains around the world. This should be done without matter what political affiliation or goverment is running...but caring about the people, the needy and the poor.

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I strongly thinks that the United Nations function should be only of humanitarian help, there are so many countries around the world with needs of food, shelter, medicine...it would be so great that all countries united in one body like the UN can help to relieve those pains around the world. This should be done without matter what political affiliation or goverment is running...but caring about the people, the needy and the poor.

That is fine. It is noble, and it is about all they are good for.
That's what I said in the first place. You want a role in post-war Iraq?
Fine. Here, go hand out candy bars.

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So, the oil pipeline that runs to Syria is shut off because Iraq has been supplying oil on the cheap to Syria ..... in violation of the UN sanctions. Or so the US says.

Now Bush is asking for the lifting of the UN sanctions. But whoa, wait a minute. The UN is saying that the sanctions were put in place because of the possibility of WMD, etc. and Saddam were not destroying them. So, the US/UK went in and flattened the whole country. You would expect some sort of 'discovery' by now since it is practically in full control. And the UN is saying that it should at least be able to send the inspectors back in to finish the job and clear Iraq of any WMD misdeeds. The US says 'no way, Jose'. BUT Bush is now asking for the sanctions to be lifted. Just like that ???

Hello, the whole country is ruined, and he has not found any WMD, and just because it suited him, he wants the sanctions to be lifted WITHOUT the UN inspectors certifying it? The very least he can do is "be nice" to the UN and let the inspectors do their job first!

So, the UN or USA's Nations to beck and call!?

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Ah, Fireduck,
Now look at the other side of that coin.
Before, the UN said prove the existance of WMD. We're not convinced they are there.

Now that it is over, the threat is gone (the regime), and the only issue that remains is getting these people back on their feet, the UN says,

Whoa, prove there aren't weapons of mass destruction before we will lift the sanctions.

Don't you see what is happening here?
The UN is desperately trying to prove they have some authority, some role, some significance, and are willing to let the people hang to try to pressure the US into getting in line with them.

Why else would the UN say "we won't lift the sanctions", except to play power politics with the US?

It doesn't matter to us. If push comes to shove, we will pay for it all ourselves and ______ the UN.

They know that and it makes them crazy!

BUT, the fact remains, that the UN is willing to withhold economic aid and even food and water to Iraq because they want to prove something to the US.

But, I guess to answer the question of this thread, it is NOT the US's Nations. The US could give a fig about this collection of minor punks trying to pretend they are somebody.

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Well here we go again, one minute what the UN says does not matter and then in the next moment they want the UN to do its bidding. One of the requirements of lifting sanctions is that all WMD must be eliminated from Iraq, so is the US saying that this is so? If so, then why the war?

From USAToday:

UNITED NATIONS — The Bush administration plans to submit a resolution to
the United Nations Security Council Friday that would immediately lift
U.N. economic sanctions against Iraq and gradually end limits on Iraqi
oil sales. U.S. officials believe that the proposal, co-sponsored by
Britain and Spain, would give a significant economic boost to the
soon-to-be formed interim government in Iraq. In 1989, before Iraq's
1990 invasion of Kuwait and the 1991 Gulf War, Iraq's oil revenue was
$14.5 billion and made up 99% of its export earnings. U.N. sanctions
were placed on Iraq in 1990.

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My opinion about the UN, who cares about the UN.  The UN is not made up of free nations, it is made up of free nations who get suckered by nations such as China, Russia (and let us not pretend that Communism is dead there) Syria (now why the heck should we listen to a country that oppresses it's people like Syria) Libia, etc

The US gets its way a lot because the US pay for most of it anyways, and we offer the most assistance to their objectives.  

We don't get our way all the time.  But I have to ask the anti american's a quick question?  What is wrong with America getting it's way over the UN?  The US is a free independent country that advocates hard work, democracy, freedom of religion etc, all the stuff that God wants to bless his children on this earth with.  What is wrong with having our way in that say compared to letting Saddam have his way.  I have a question for the lds members, do you think the Gospel could ever be sent to Iraq and other nations if it were not for the United States?  What is it specifically that Bush wants for these countries?  Lets see, well he has said freedom of religion (which if brought to its reality would mean missionaries in the middle east) freedom of speech etc.  No wonder that when the US entered Bagdad they were dancing in the street with signs saying (don't read this part if you are anti bush) "Bush, Defender of World Peace"

I have a question for you bush bashers, do you disagree with the Iraquiees that held signs up that said "Bush, Defendeer of World Peace"?

I'll be upfront and honest, Bush bashing is inspired by Satan.

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We don't get our way all the time.  But I have to ask the anti american's a quick question?  What is wrong with America getting it's way over the UN?  The US is a free independent country that advocates hard work, democracy, freedom of religion etc, all the stuff that God wants to bless his children on this earth with.  What is wrong with having our way in that say compared to letting Saddam have his way.

First of all what you term 'America' is the whole Western Hemisphere, I believe you mean the USA.  Second, only someone that believes the US is all the things you mentioned will wish for the UN to be 'taken over' by the US, but please keep in mind... not everyone thinks like this.

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I have a question for the lds members, do you think the Gospel could ever be sent to Iraq and other nations if it were not for the United States?

Like I said before, this forum is not for religious views, because then you are isolating the topic.

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I'll be upfront and honest, Bush bashing is inspired by Satan.

Brian, please, I would like to consider your intellectual contribution to this forum, let us not become laughable.