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California Stem Cell Research Panel Faces New Lawsuit
Sacramento, CA (LifeNews.com) -- Another lawsuit has been filed against the state panel created by Proposition 71 to shell out $3 billion in grants to scientists conducting human cloning and embryonic stem cell research. Maryland pro-life attorney Martin Palmer filed the lawsuit on behalf of "Mary Scott Doe," representing the 400,000 fertilized eggs in storage units at fertility clinics across the nation. The lawsuit also represents a Riverside, California couple who adopted a frozen embryo. Their child is not two years old. Palmer says the lawsuit is necessary because using state funds for embryonic stem cell research doesn't take into account the fact that such research destroys human life. He says the unborn children who die should have a chance to be represented in court. "It's the same question we had over a century and a half ago, but it's simply cleaned up and sanitized. Person or property, that's the question," he told the San Francisco Examiner. Joel Paul, a professor of constitutional law at the University of California, Hastings College of the Law, agreed and said that courts have consistently ruled that an unborn child at that stage of life is not a human being worth of legal protection. "And, the Supreme Court has said it will not decide question when life begins - implicit in that [ruling] is that the fetus is not a person," he said.
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With the advancement in technology where will this end or begin as the case may be? Can you imagine if humans were born from this - wondering who mom and dad were / are would be a significant problem.
Human Embryos Cloned For First Time From Immature Eggs
Copenhagen, Denmark (LifeNews.com) -- Belgian scientists say they are the first to clone human embryos using eggs matured in a laboratory rather than mature donated eggs from women. They say the discovery could overcome some of the problems associated with embryonic stem cell research. In previous human cloning processes, all of the eggs used to create new human life came from women who donated them for research.
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Scientists at Embryonic Stem Cell Research Mtg. Admit Failures
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Hundreds of scientists who back embryonic stem cell research are meeting in California to discuss the current state of the controversial research are admitting they've not made much progress and losing millions in trying to perfect it. "Many of the technologies we hyped to the general public haven't worked yet,'' Celgene President Alan Lewis said, according to an AP story. James Thomson, the Wisconsin biologist who was the first to isolate embryonic stem cells also admits they have been oversold. He told MSBNC that he understands the technology still has a long way to go and that embryonic stem cells are not being used in any human clinical trials yet. "I'm very hopeful that there will be some transplantation applications for this technology, but they're going to be very challenging," he told MSNBC. "And it's been so hyped in the press that people expect it to come the day after tomorrow." Thomson conceded that embryonic stem cell cures may not be available until "ten to twenty years from now." Meanwhile, Lewis also pointed out that venture capitalists, the source of much of the funding of stem cell research companies, "are very cautious'' about investing because of the limited success and lack of future prospects. Read the complete story.
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There is always been something about cloning that I don't understand. When cloning was first talked about in scientific circles the science fiction horror stories of cloning master races or whole armies to fight wars was brought up. This has led to the questions of religion and philosophy. Is it right to clone a human being, is it right to clone an embryo for research. I personally have views on these issues, but what I would really like to know is why. Why is it automatically assumed that because cloning technology is available that suddenly every scientist will start cloning humans or human embryos. I have always saw cloning an incredible benefit to medical research. For example I have a rare disease and there is medicine that is being researched to possibly stem the disease or even cure it. Clone a few of the cells that will be most affected by the drug and test it out. Or for people who are say hemophiliacs, clone the necessary blood cells to help clot their blood. Or if it ever becomes possible to clone whole limbs in a relatively short time, clone a leg for example to the war hero who had his leg shot off in war. I do believe that some scientists will take their experiments in gross and unethical areas of science, but scientists do this in many other areas of science as well. They are not the norm but the exception. Should we let a few bad apples spoil the bunch for the greater good of humanity, I don't think so. I also think that once the novelty of being the first scientist to clone an embryo or a human wears off then things will progress in a much saner fashion with the ultimate goal being not to be able to clone an entire individual or create a disposable army like in the movie The Island, but to prolong and enrich the lives that are created through natural child birth.
PANEL SAYS STEM CELL WORK FAKED
Researcher Hwang Woo-suk apologized Friday and resigned from a South Korean university after the school announced that he fabricated results in stem-cell research that had raised hopes of new cures for hard-to-treat diseases.
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If stem cell research helps cure things like cancer then I am all for it.
I can't quite understand the debate against it. People are scared that if this technology falls into the wrong hands mad scientists could create a super race or evil army? This is the stuff of comic books.
If any technology falls into the wrong hands it could cause problems. The medical fraternity suggests stem cell research can greatly advance science so we should embrace it. If stem cells can be produced without the use of humans then even better.
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For the most part, people who oppose stem cell research do so because they don't like the idea of someone creating an embryo through either cloning or through other artificial means, specifically for the purpose of destroying that human embryo to gain its cells.
Adult stem cell research has brought forth many new medical treatments already. As far as I know, embryonic stem cell research has not been successful in anything. It is embryonic stem cell research that is controversial, not adult stem cell research.
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But if something is artificially created then what is the problem with artificially destroying it? We farm animals to slaughter for our survival, why not farm embryos if it helps scientists find cures?
If there was no value in embryonic stem cell research, why do scientists want to continue its research? There must be some valid reason for the push.
My concern is for the number of lives that could be saved with this technology. Anyone against embryonic stem cell research should consider the lives that could be saved instead of worrying about embryos that have been disposed of and won't be a life regardless. They use embryos that would otherwise be discarded, we are not talking about potential lives being robbed here.
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