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That might be a problem since he was elected to office BY the Iranian people. He is up again in 2009 so if the Iranian people don't want him they can elect someone else.

Firstly Ahmadinejad is not a danger to humankind for 2 reasons.

1. He has always said he wants peace
2. Major decisions about security in Iran are not in his hands anyway.

Now the only statement by Ahmadinejad that can be interpreted as violent is "israel should be wiped off the map". I have discussed this in detail in another thread and I havent seen anyone bring any better evidence.

There is no indication from the Supreme Leader and the Assembly of Experts that Iran is trying to obtain nuclear weapons. There are fatwas from the supreme leader himself declaring nuclear weapons as Forbidden in the religion of Islam (A religious Fatwa is very very serious). Ahmadinejad has repeatedly said that Iran is not working towards the nuclear weapon.



Edited: Karbala on 24th May, 2007 - 2:49pm

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Karbala said:

Hopefully in 2009 they will be smart enough to get rid of him.

Ok, so in your opinion what is the purpose that they are enriching uranium so regularly?

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Actually, you all might be interested to know that Iran once did hold an interest in nuclear weapons. The Iranian nuclear programme was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States. After the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the government temporarily disbanded the programme. It was the Shah, that brutal Western-backed tyrant/puppet, who tried to acquire nuclear weapons. NOT Ahmadinejad or any of his Islamic revolutionary drunk predecesors.

The Americans were very happy to support this suppresive criminal who used to unleash a viscous and violent secret service called SAVAK on the wider population. The US, Briatin and other Western allies, who inflated the ego and power of this ruthless idiot, have as much to do with the Islamic revolution as anyone within Iran. If you support someone who the wider population hates then what do you expect? The Brits and the Americans very much engineered the coup that allowed the Shah, who virtually invented his own history to claim any sense of royalty, to come to power in the first place.

Iran's situation is a joke, because uninformed people from the West continue to dismiss the Persians and their intentions without any knowledge or consideration for the past. By the way I am not Persian or have any links or ties to the Middle East. I am a journalist who seeks the truth, not the sanitised US version of the truth.

Bush has no idea about Iran's past (he hardly knows anything about Iraq). This US Administration is trying to take a popular firebrand like Ahmadinejad (who I am not a fan off) and demonise him in the same way they did Saddam. How little does Bush and his useless cronies remind the world of how someone so devisive like the Iranian president could be democratically elected into a country with such intelligence and wealth as Iran. Intelligence, because when the Shah was in power a lot of Iranians got their education in the good ol' USA. Ahmadinejad exists because Iranians have been so screwed over by Western backed secularists. That is the hurtful truth Bush and his mindless speech writers desperately try to hide.

I do not know what the details of Iran's current nuclear prgramme are. Peaceful or military? Who knows? But I can tell you right now, with very good authority, that these intentions are far more peaceful than the US's and Israel's nuclear weapons programmes. Who are these countries to tell Iran not to seek nuclear weapons? Who is the only country that has used nuclear weapons on a civillian population? This is mass hypocrisy. Not only is it that, but there is still no proof that Iran is producing nuclear weapons, much like there was never proof that Iraq had WMDs. So why do we hound Iran when we know the US and Israel routinely produce nuclear weapons?

Can anyone please answer this one simple question. And when you discover this answer you might then understand why people like Ahmadinejad can move from student activist to president of one of the most powerful countries in the Middle East.

Edited: arvhic on 24th May, 2007 - 10:13pm

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Simple. Anyone who is familiar with the statements of the Father of the Iranian revolution Ayatollah Khomeini will know:

Iran since the 1980s has explicitly declared its policy of oil conservation. Oil as a source of energy is estimated to run out in 100 years. Uranium enrichment is simply for energy needs and this is a problem that will eventually become the biggest problem in the world.

Interesting wording. I take it you do not agree with the Islamic revolution.

Ahmadinejads and the islamic revolutions popularity in large sections of the middle east and muslim world especially in Iran can partly be attributed to being a reaction to the hypocritical oppressive policies of USA, Israel and others. But there are many other reasons as well.

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IRAN SAYS IT'S UNCOVERED SPY RINGS FROM U.S., ALLIES

Iran said Saturday it has uncovered spy rings organized by the United States and its Western allies, claiming on state-run television that the espionage networks were made up of "infiltrating elements from the Iraqi occupiers."
Ref. https://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/26/...e.ap/index.html

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A step forward? I wonder what is the purpose of diplomacy if the man and his country have already said that they are not backing down?

Ahmadinejads rules by religious dictates and that is scary from any angle. When a leader starts telling his own people that men are not allowed to even pluck hairs from their eyebrows then you are looking for serious trouble all around. Could you imagine if he was ruler of the world?

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What a waste of time. Iran is never going to back down. I am not sure what the US is trying to do here really. I never supported the invasion of the US in Iraq because they never had proof of weapons of mass destruction, but if some reason they decide to invade Iran I would support it since what they are doing is defying UN demands to stop enriching uranium, and they have done it for so long! What needs to happen until someone steps in and stops this non-sense?

Rather off topic, but... QUOTE When a leader starts telling his own people that men are not allowed to even pluck hairs from their eyebrows then you are looking for serious trouble all around. Could you imagine if he was ruler of the world? The guy is not only a religious fanatic but also breathes arrogance trying to impose his sickening views to others. No wonder people in Iran don't dare to do anything against him, with the type of mentality he has he is definitly the future Adolf Hitler. Scary.

The guy is not only a religious fanatic but also breathes arrogance trying to impose his sickening views to others. No wonder people in Iran don't dare to do anything against him, with the type of mentality he has he is definitly the future Adolf Hitler. Scary.

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A very ignorant statement. Ahmadinejad is not a Jurisprudent. He has no permission to issue religious dictates. He cannot make his own laws. Maybe you should study the iranian jurisprudent structure first.

If defying UN demands is the criteria to invade someone Israel, Pakistan, India and others should be invaded. Iran has every right to uranium enrichment just like USA, UK, Israel, Pakistan, India etc etc.
I dont think you are familiar with Ahmadinejads UN address. Answer this very simple question:

Why are 6 nations of the Security council allowed to 1. Accuse someone then 2. sit as judge and jury over them and finally 3. impose sanctions on them?

Ignorance piled upon ignorance. Do you know the people of Iran? Have you been to Iran? Do you even speak their language? Where do you get your information about what the people of Iran feel about Ahmadinejad?

People in Iran are free to critisize Ahmadinejad. If you have ever read a persian newspaper you would know that his strongest critics are inside Iran. He does not impose his views on anyone. Rather most people in Iran willingly subscribe to his views freely.