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  Russia and the USA will fight a great war in the end       30.61%
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  Russia plans to take over the world       6.12%
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  Russia is capable to take over the world but is not interested       8.16%
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  If the USA were not around then Russia would 'run' things       8.16%
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  Russia pretends to be diplomatic but their purpose is evil       16.33%
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  The USA makes up too many stories about old Russia       14.29%
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  Russia is a great place and people need to drop the myths       16.33%
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4th Sep, 2004 - 4:53pm / Post ID: #

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LDS_forever, that is sick, but that is what terrorists do, put terror in the lives of people.

Nighthawk, so then you are in agreement with the the first few posts at the beginning of this thread where it says that Russia is only giving a false impression of becoming a democracy just to hide its desire to bring back communism in full force?


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4th Sep, 2004 - 9:37pm / Post ID: #

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Evil is not confined to nations or races of course.

I believe that certain "international groups" shall we say direct much of the evil that goes on in the world. Not everything but the major political and economic events.

History - or what we deem to be history - has two extremes: random, unrelated events OR agenda-driven events.

What I will say now is opinion based on quite a bit of research over the years. Evidence, in the end, is for each individual to judge. But I must say, to me the evidence is overwhelming in favour of these things. Documents, accounts, testimonies, etc. all weigh strongly in favour of the conspiratorial view.

Certain forces conspired to create certain events, among those the World Wars. These were ignited to achieve two things: firstly, to tear down existing insitutions and governments in order for a pre-agreed take over by the forces of communism (itself created by and simply a wing of those international powers based in the West) and secondly to create a desire for "peace at any price" within the populations of those countries affected by the Wars in order to make way for the establishing of the embryonic supranational organizations.

Trace the money and, I would submit, you will see the same cadre behind such things as *apparently* diverse as nazism, communism and even the FRS - a cadre, JB, that has certainly transcended one living generation.

The philosophy of socialism-communism prepares people to become slaves and unquestioning soldiers and robs the virtuous and informed of the means to defend themselves.

Russia and the whole Cold War was pre-arranged to create a justification for the further development of globalist organizations.

When the Berlin Wall came down the commissars over the several states of the former USSR were not replaced. They simply changed their name to "social democrats".

This "fall of communism" was planned in order to turn a red and white world into a pink one - to comfortably merge the two systems. Of course, this is not possible in reality. A little bit of socialism is like a little bit of pregnancy.

In this time of "friendship" the idea has now been taken to the next step of creating supranational blocs to considate power: the EU, African Union, etc. and the beginnings of the EU equivalent in the US/Canada (the FTAA).

The goal being to then merge these blocs into a global government owned and controlled by this cadre of elite internationals.

Thesis - synthesis - antithesis!

One of the great problems of this generation is Pride - and that means an inability to believe we are susceptible to the same tragedies and corruptions and evils of the past.

History is repeating itself yet again and everyone is calling evil good and good evil. ;(











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4th Sep, 2004 - 11:28pm / Post ID: #

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Interesting. So then what 'signs' should we look for in Russia? If they are pretending to be weak, then they are certainly doing a great job. Their current President seems to be handling himself and the country as a dictator, (Re: That tactic he used to ensure he would not have to run against billionaires) and hardly surprising considering his past.


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5th Sep, 2004 - 4:11am / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (JB@Trinidad @ 4-Sep 04, 12:53 PM)
Nighthawk, so then you are in agreement with the the first few posts at the beginning of this thread where it says that Russia is only giving a false impression of becoming a democracy just to hide its desire to bring back communism in full force?

I am not actually sure whether or not it is a planned move, but rather a natural progression. Some of the recent happenings there, concerning elections and such, just point out to me that the culture there seems to lead towards totalitarianism.


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5th Sep, 2004 - 7:33am / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (JB@Trinidad @ 4-Sep 04, 6:28 PM)
Interesting. So then what 'signs' should we look for in Russia? If they are pretending to be weak, then they are certainly doing a great job. Their current President seems to be handling himself and the country as a dictator, (Re: That tactic he used to ensure he would not have to run against billionaires) and hardly surprising considering his past.

A couple of men who have won my admiration for their understanding of principles, and awareness of what is *really* going on in the world, are G. Edward Griffin and Joel Skousen.

Joel covers much of what has been addressed on this thread in this article:

https://www.joelskousen.com/threats.html



Dubhdara.


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5th Sep, 2004 - 11:57am / Post ID: #

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Good reading, the author uses the same foundation presented at the start of this thread as a justification for his opinions. From the same link:

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The Russians are clearly implementing Sun Tzu's classic war doctrine of "feigning weakness" prior to a strike.

I believe that sums it all up.

One has to ask. Why does the West choose to ignore this possible sleeping giant. Is it because they are like nations of old, to engrossed in their own power and pleasures that they could not see the trojan horse or are communists more prevelant in the US than one might think? I especially could never understand why the US gives nations like Russia money?

As he continues:

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"It is my concerted opinion that the Russians do not want to begin their massive attack on the West with a conventional flow of armaments and troop build-up in Europe. These types of precursor movements would be easily detected by US and European reconnaissance satellites. Neither do the Russians want to destroy Europe if they don't have to. I believe that Russia is planning a massive preemptive nuclear strike on US and British military facilities sometime toward the end of this current decade--precisely because such a strike would decapitate Western military power within two days, with little loss to Russia, and instill fear in the rest of the world."


End of the decade... 2010? Do we anticipate this so soon?


On the note about the school killings:

RUSSIA SCHOOL SIEGE TOLL TOPS 350

The death toll in the Russian hostage crisis has climbed beyond 350 as
President Vladimir Putin denounced the massacre as "an attack on our country."
Ref. https://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/04...hool/index.html


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5th Sep, 2004 - 8:44pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (JB@Trinidad @ 5-Sep 04, 7:57 AM)
One has to ask. Why does the West choose to ignore this possible sleeping giant. Is it because they are like nations of old, to engrossed in their own power and pleasures that they could not see the trojan horse or are communists more prevelant in the US than one might think?

I think they ignore it because it is convenient to do so. By ignoring the growing danger of communism's rebirth, they are able to channel wealth into their own pet projects.

Another problem is that the "Left" still thinks that there really isn't anything wrong with communism, but that the conflicts of the 20th Century were all caused by the extreme conservatism of the West. That is, that if only the West had just been more compliant towards the Soviet Union and China, been willing to appease them by allowing them to expand, that the world would have just merrily went on its "destined" way to a socialist utopia. So, the Left still thinks that there is no problem with Russia, other than the evil influences of capitalism, so the Leftist forces within all of the Western governments continually downplay any possibility of danger coming from Russia.


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Post Date: 14th Sep, 2004 - 6:50pm / Post ID: #

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PUTIN OVERHAULS POLITICAL SYSTEM

President Vladimir Putin ordered an overhaul of Russia's political system
Monday, reacting to a three-week onslaught of terrorism with plans for the
most extensive political shakeup since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Ref. https://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/14...n.ap/index.html

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