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AHEAD: SIX DECADES OF HUMILIATION Ted Rall - Page 3 - Politics, Business, Civil, History - Posted: 9th Jul, 2005 - 12:55pm

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Post Date: 6th Feb, 2004 - 5:15am / Post ID: #

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I really feel in some ways the same,someone must rise above and lead the world.If not us then who?When you are on top,it is obvious,because everyone is out to bash you,instead of commend you.Its o.k. to hate us,or trash our ideas,(we believe in expressing your true feelings),but there really is no body in the history of the world that has done more to the benefit of mankind.So if you lost our 'aid' maybe you should think about whats important to you.(If I get fired from my job for violating company policy why would I complain about that ? I did it to myself.)(and how would I get the job back?By adjusting back to company policy,or quit and look for someone else to mooch off of.)
We are by far perfect,nobody is.

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7th Feb, 2004 - 1:12am / Post ID: #

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I was going to add my input, but it seems that the ideas behind 'what they have done for us' has been trashed out a lot in the Iraq War (first thread), United Nations or USA's Nations and the Bin Laden Friend or Foe threads so much that this will only be a repeat wink.gif Go USA!


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29th Oct, 2004 - 11:29am / Post ID: #

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I was recently informed of this quote, notice it is not my words... what do you think about it?

" ... the United States, for generations, has sustained two parallel but opposed states of mind about military atrocities and human rights: one of U.S. benevolence, generally held by the public, and the other of ends-justify-the-means brutality sponsored by counterinsurgency specialists. Normally the specialists carry out their actions in remote locations with little notice in the national press. That allows the public to sustain its faith in a just America, while hard-nosed security and economic interests are still protected in secret. "
-Robert Parry, investigative reporter and author


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Post Date: 4th Dec, 2004 - 11:30am / Post ID: #

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"It seems that 'we have never gone to war for conquest, for exploitation, nor for territory'; we have the word of a president [McKinley] for that. Observe, now, how Providence overrules the intentions of the truly good for their advantage. We went to war with Mexico for peace, humanity and honor, yet emerged from the contest with an extension of territory beyond the dreams of political avarice. We went to war with Spain for relief of an oppressed people [the Cubans], and at the close found ourselves in possession of vast and rich insular dependencies [primarily the Philippines] and with a pretty tight grasp upon the country for relief of whose oppressed people we took up arms. We could hardly have profited more had 'territorial aggrandizement' been the spirit of our purpose and heart of our hope. The slightest acquaintance with history shows that powerful republics are the most warlike and unscrupulous of nations."
-- Ambrose Bierce, Warlike America

7th Mar, 2005 - 6:01pm / Post ID: #

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Here is a great article that applies to this topic.

What have the Americans ever done for us? Liberated 50 million people...

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ONE OF MY favourite cinematic moments is the scene in Monty Python's Life of Brian when Reg, aka John Cleese, the leader of the People's Front of Judea, is trying to whip up anti-Roman sentiment among his team of slightly hesitant commandos.

"What have the Romans ever done for us?" he asks.

"Well, there's the aqueduct," somebody says, thoughtfully. "The sanitation," says another. "Public order," offers a third. Reg reluctantly acknowledges that there may have been a couple of benefits. But then steadily, and with increasing enthusiasm, his men reel off a litany of the good things the Romans have wrought with their occupation of the Holy Land.

By the time they"re finished they"re not so sure about the whole insurgency idea after all and an exasperated Reg tries to rally them: "All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

I can't help but think of that scene as I watch the contortions of the anti-American hordes in Britain, Europe and even in the US itself in response to the remarkable events that are unfolding in the real Middle East today.


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Post Date: 31st Mar, 2005 - 8:34pm / Post ID: #

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but there really is no body in the history of the world that has done more to the benefit of mankind


Excuse me? Care to back that up?

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I can't help but think of that scene as I watch the contortions of the anti-American hordes in Britain, Europe and even in the US itself in response to the remarkable events that are unfolding in the real Middle East today.


Gratitude tends to wane under the heels of arrogance. Have you asked yourself why Canadians still get the warmest of welcomes in France while Americans do not?

The American war contribution to Europe during WWII wan invaluable, yes. And the gratitude was great. The question should not be 'how dare the ungrateful Europeans refuse to support us in Iraq?', but rather 'how has America managed to squander the political capital gained from WWII?'. Another interesting question: just how long should Europe have debased itself to the American liberator?

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Post Date: 14th Jun, 2005 - 2:32pm / Post ID: #

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"We Americans have no commission from God to police the world"
-- Benjamin Harrison, address to Congress, 1888

Post Date: 9th Jul, 2005 - 12:55pm / Post ID: #

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AHEAD: SIX DECADES OF HUMILIATION

Ted Rall - NEW YORK--The world hates us more than ever, according to a new Pew Research poll of 16,000 citizens in 15 countries. Most Canadians think Americans are exceptionally rude. The Chinese say we're violent and greedy. Nearly half of Turks--up from 32 percent a year ago--say they dislike Americans as individuals and America as a nation, according to the survey. Muslims have a "quite negative hostility toward America," says Pew president Andrew Kohut. Even among our traditional allies, he says, the United States "remains broadly disliked."
Ref. https://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...esofhumiliation

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