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I hate to be so single-minded on this but before Bush things were quiter. People like to judge others based on their negative actions. Because of Bush's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, people started hated America. Which personally is a stupid thing to do. Are we all going to hate the Zimbabweans because of Mugabe? Are we going to hate the white South Africans because of Voerwoerd? Are we going to hate the Soviets just because of Stalin?

One double standard I really despise is the fact that America wants to control the world but knows nothing about it! It's a fact that American students(I am in the minority) knows very little about the world's geography. Most Americans can't even find their 50 states on a map, not to mention their capitols, their territories and the countries. And then America comes with it's big bad ideas, cut financional aid for countries which it doesn't support, propagate American culture to the "backward world" which I don't deny that America has great movies, songs and great authors, but what would the world be if everyone drank Coke, wore Levi's Jeans,yapped on cellphones and followed Gordon Gekko's greed is good philosophy? Also, why not attack a few countries so people can see how great America is. Hmm.... question is which countries. Bush would say...hmmm...Libya, Qaddafi is a bad man, hmmm.... North Korea, nukes, No, what am I thinking? Oil and my family's wealth and honor can be uplifted if I attack Iraq. Yeah, I came full circle back to Bush.

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Yellowknife said:

"People" started hating America long before Bush came along, and way before Iraq and Afghanistan.

That's rather a bold statement, and one I disagree with.

Offtopic but, QUOTE ...control the world but knows nothing about it! It's a fact that American students(I am in the minority) knows very little about the world's geography. Most Americans can't even find their 50 states on a map, not to mention their capitols, their territories and the countries. That's probably mostly true, and I have to admit that I'm in that category. I can identify regions and areas, but I have difficulty pinpointing any countries other than the largest ones. But that has nothing to do with the American FedGov's aspirations in the world arena, in my opinion.

That's probably mostly true, and I have to admit that I'm in that category. I can identify regions and areas, but I have difficulty pinpointing any countries other than the largest ones. But that has nothing to do with the American FedGov's aspirations in the world arena, in my opinion.

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Just a little tiny bit of fun here.

It seems that a judge in Spain wants three US military members to appear in his court, because they fired upon a hotel in Baghdad a couple of years ago, killing a Spanish journalist.
https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051019/ap_on_...GZhBHNlYwM3MjE-

Ah, now we see why it is so important that there be an International Criminal Court. When someone accidentally gets killed because they are in a war zone, it is vital that the warriors involved be hounded, harassed, and harangued until they are thrown into a stinking Spanish prison for life.

That's what it is all about, folks. Throw the warriors in prison, but turn a blind eye to the enablers of terror in your own midst (the Muslim imams in Spain who promote jihad such as the 3/11 bombings). Especially if the warriors are Americans. After all, as the title of this topic says, the USA is the "big bad bully."

BTW, has anyone noticed anything from the ICC about bringing up bin Laden or any other leaders of Al Qaeda on charges for Europeans killed on 9/11?

I didn't think so.

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There is a disturbing trend that is taking place in this thread, justifying what the U.S. does with examples of other countries wrong doing. There is no doubt that other countries to wrong things allot, but thats no excuse for our wrongs in the world.

I am a patriot. I am not U.S. bashing by what I am saying. I vote every chance I get and support our troops over sea's and at home. I pay taxes out the wazoo for everything. This gives me the right to say how I feel without someone calling me a U.S. basher.

The United States is a bully. We go where we please, when we please, doing what we please. When everyone else says don't, we ignore it and do what ever we want. We force our form of government and American ideals on people whether they want it or not through our policies and attitude towards the rest of the world. As information comes out that makes the war in Iraq more for our own purposes than actual need, it becomes more apparent that we do what we want for any little reason we can come up with.

The U.S. gives foreign ambassadors protection to encourage them to come here with open lines of communication. It was given by us, it didn't have to be that way, but we did. To tell other countries that if they don't have the same laws regarding our people in their with threat of penalties and sanctions is absolutely a bully tactic! Do what we say or else! Since when is it required that other countries follow our lead and have the same policies as us? Thats not a fair requirement of another sovereign nation. You cant convince me that isn't a bully tactic by the bigger country.

Further, I am really tired of the idea that every thing the U.S. does is right in the eyes of its citizens and the idealogy that those who think the U.S. is doing wrong is bad and not a patriot or a U.S. basher. That is the same bully mentality our government has and is completely fallacious in my opinion.

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I have no problem with this. I believe we have a right to do what we want without getting permission from others. I, personally, have no problem with our having gone into Iraq. I believe, we had a failure of intelligence, which is unfortunate. However, based upon what we believed to be true at that time, I think we had to go in. In addition, frankly, I think we have a responsibility to other humans to intervene in certain situations. Since going into Iraq, we have become aware of just how truly awful they were treated. Mass killings. How is this different than what Hitler did? Should he have been allowed to do what he was doing with no intervention because they German people supported him? I don't think so.

I think you are quite misguided here too. We have every right to say that we are not going to subject our diplomats to the risks they would be subjected too if it weren't for such protections. This is not carte blanche to do what they want, but it does mean they are held to US laws not some Muslim law for example that says stone the woman for committing adultery. If they don't want to grant our diplomats that immunity, it is their right. However, it is just as much our right not to send our diplomats in such cases. I fully support the decision not to submit our diplomats or military members to such risks.

Power and bully are not the same thing. Whether or not we are bullies, I do not know or care, but we certainly have the power. Take the good with the bad. You want my money, deal with my requirements. Just like when my parents used to say "you live under my roof, you follow my rules."

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There sounds to be a lot of wrongs and rights within this thread. Some of the facts listed are quite debateable, yet others do not seem harsh enough. America, being a or the superpower will always be hated. That happens on every scale, in every environment. Those without hate those with - it is as simple as that. Yet when we talk of wars, I personally thought Afghanistan was an answer to a terrible attack and also helped a country where nearly all the people were subjected to pretty tough control; Iraq, well if nearly all of the countries in the world say leave'm alone, especially those within range of any threat, then that is exactly what we should have done.

I have stated in other threads that I have personally been to many countries that the U.S. has helped and is helping without any return of goods such as oil or such. To paint us as the big evil, when some of us remember times of suppression of other nations that now stand liberated with democratic societies by the aid of our soldiers and fallen soldiers/ and our pushy-ness to ensure all peoples are treaty with humanity, is a disappointment.

As all should be in their homeland, I am proud to be an American.

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The US is seen as a bully because people don't like other countries interfering with their affairs. And it tends to leave countries in a similar or worse mess than when they arrived. Of course the same can be said for many other superpowers in history.

For example, Afghanistan is now controlled by war lord thugs just as vicious as the Taliban. The reality is the US-led invasion has not helped the people. There are still very few rights for women, especially those living outside of Kabul. People are being murdered every day.

All the war in Afghanistan has achieved is to install a puppet, powerless and token "democratic" government, and to revive the heroin trade. I actually thought the Taliban were very good at containing the supply, they are certainly better than the warlords.

Iraq is another example. It was not a situation that needed intervening. In fact far more innocent civilians have died since the war than had been murdered by Saddam in the years leading up to it. Saddam was powerless, the world was intentionally lied to, and now Iraq is a disaster. Sure, the US government planned the invasion many years ago, but other governments including my own foolishly followed for other political reasons. You can't just blame the US Government for this.

I agree that superpowers will be more scrutinised than most nations but this is not out of jealously. The American government has to stop thinking it's way of living is the best or what the rest of the world aspires to. This is so far from the truth it is not funny. I don't know one person who wants to live in America or wants the American way of life. Invading countries for ideological reasons is not only stupid, but will cause tension with other cultures. Of course the US will look like a bully when it tries to force its beliefs on others.

This is the problem. The US DOESN'T have the right to interfere in other people's affairs. How would Americans like it if when China becomes a superpower it starts pushing for regime change in the US?

But one thing has to be made clear. I think it is ridiculous to hate or blame American people for what their government does. It is obvious the media in the US is very weak, so you can't blame the people for supporting their government in conflict.

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Really?! We have such a huge problem with illegal immigration in this country that it is obvious many do want to live in this country and they do want this way of life.

I think the problem is that we don't always agree upon what is our business.