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You know what's sad about the whole deal?  It is that Bush would be climbing the walls to get U.S. citizens released from such terrible conditions.  But for the U.S. to treat these prisoners in the same way is cruel.  No wonder, Bush can never be taken seriously, because he is acting like such a hypocrit.  

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I like how some countries are starting to impose all kinds of restrictions on the US citizens coming in their country. Brazil now photographs US Citizens upon entry. Tit for tat? Not really relevant, but I guess they are tired of all the added red tape that constantly has to be imposed on non-US countries.

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This article shows the double standards of the US:

https://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s/uranium_plant

Wasn't that what the Iranians claim to do with their nuclear plants .... for peaceful purpose of providing power to its people and industries? But then they are Iranians, their words cannot be taken seriously. We are Americans, what we say we do, it will be the truth. Afterall, truth is our sole right.

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Okay, here is the deal behind this thing. The international world as a whole is better off for this cut in foreign aid. Do you know why? Probably not, but i will tell you. The american economy has trillians of dollars in debt, if that gets worse and if any kind of depression happens america and the rest of the world's economy's will take a major hit. It would be worse than the great depression in the 1930's.
Know what I mean?

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What you seem to be all forgetting is that when a foreign diplomat comes to the US, they are exempted from US law. If they commit a crime, any prosecution is left up to their home country. So, I don't see a double standard here.

I do not believe it is unreasonable to say, if we have military troops in your country as a service to you, we want them to be held to US standards of law not yours. For example, in some Muslim countries there are some very extreme laws that could be used to prosecute military members for doing things that most civilized nations would not consider illegal. Why should a US service member who is in that nation not by choice, but because the US government demands it, be subject to those laws? I do not believe we are suggesting the US military members be subjected to no laws, just that it isn't right to send a female soldier, for example to a country that requires she wear a veil over her head and if she doesn't, she can be severly punished. Also, many Muslim countries subject their citizens to the death penalty for adultery. If a US military person commits adultery with another US miitary person while stationed in a Muslim country, should they be subject to the death penalty?

Edited: tenaheff on 13th Jan, 2004 - 2:19pm

Politics - USA the big bad bully?

Because they can. Countries have been doing this since the inception of the "nation" concept; if you have the financial, political, or military power to influence other countries to your advantage.. you do.

It's not "fair" - and for most of us non-americans it really sucks - but it's hardly something we should be shocked at, it's been happening for thousands of years.

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tenaheff shares my exact point of view.other countries have some pretty extreme penalties for their laws and some of them are not even relavant to the rest of the world,so saying we should be subject to ALL laws in foreign countries is a little extreme.
As for the U.S. being a hypocrite when it comes to nuclear energy,WAKE UP.We have these weapons,but we dont exactly have a plan to use them,the technology is there,so if we dont have the best weapons in that field how are going to post a front to anybody?You just cant unmake these weapons they will exist untill we destroy ourselves.We also understand beyond the shadow of doubt how powerful these weapons are,most of these other countries do not.We figured out a long time ago,that we would never be able to use them again without serious consequences.so why the need to keep them away from third world countries?HMMMMM?
The world is a better place with the U.S. looking after things,just look at all the aid we do offer around the world,more than anyone(when we really need it for ourselves),but when 5,000,000 children starve here that same food could feed 30,000,000 around the world(so we do the best we can).And if you are the one offering aid,then dont you also reserve the right to take it away?The reason is not that important to me,just people not getting the help anymore need to quit crying.If you need our help and we give it then when we need something in return you should just as willing to give it back,in most cases these countries spit in our face,well,then right back at ya!
Sorry for the rant just trying to address several different things here.Peace!

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international politics isn't fair. LIFE isn't fair. I don't understand why people think that international politics should be like friendships at the rotary club. Everybody is looking out for #1

the following is a FTS (Fact That Sux)

every govt. PAST AND PRESENT, in every country throughout the world, of whatever political persuasion (Fascist, Repub, Dem, Commie, whatever) decides policy, for the most part, out of self-interest

name me one country, just ONE, that puts the world's interests before their own

liberals and especially Europeans, love to bash the USA, even on those rare occasions when we're not acting out of self-interest. The US gets bashed for being involved, and even when we're not involved, we still get bashed. Or do we get bashed simply because the US exists? yuo tell me...

i spend a lot of time in Europe, and i was travelling across Europe during one of those rare times that the US was not acting out of self-interest. I'm refering to that Yugo/Bosnia/Kosovo debacle

every country that i went to, for darn sure, every European was annoyed offensive word removed that the US wasn't doing anything. Now because Yugoslavia is turning into a offensive word removed hole again coz the ultra-right tards are looking favorites to get back into power again, the rest of Europe act like the US created the genocide problem in the first place

that's why sometimes the US needs to just do whatever is in our best interests alone. The rest of the world is going to act like "rape victims" anyway, that is another FTS...

furthermore, the reason why a lot of Europeans froth at the mouth like rabid dogs at the supposed "threat" to the world by the US, is because a totalitarian, world-dominating thugocracy is EXACTLY what they'd set up if they were in our position

almost every European country has tried their best to do it every time they've had an opportunity. Heck, the Brits came within a hair of succeeding

the fact that the US failed to institute such a regime when we had the chance (i.e., at the end of WWII, when Europeanland was in a shambles, and we were the only superpower in town coz we were the only ones who had nukes) is an eternal mystery to the rabid Europeans

the fact that the US has no interest in lording it over a pack of murdering tribes (whether said tribes are Europeans, Iraqis, or whoever) is simply incomprehensible to the imperalistic Europeans mind

i will now end this rant with another FTS that all USA bashers should bear in mind

SOMEONE has to be the #1 superpower, or the "Big Bully" of the world. At the moment it happens to be us. But if we were ever to lose our #1 position, someone is gonna replace us, and WHOEVER it is, whether it's China or a United States of European or whatever, WHOEVER it is, they will offensive symbol removed with the world even worse than what we currently do

Edited: tenaheff on 5th Feb, 2004 - 10:19pm