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[quote][3- The US lied to them in '91. Big George told them he would back them up in a revolt and instead turned his back on them. That was a black mark on our honor I will never forgive.
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I really hope they keep their word this time.

[quote]But I give them credit. They are fighting smart. Fall back, hit the supply lines. Break into small units, hard to find, hit and run. If they had better equipment, they could make a better fight of it. [/quote]
Air support... that is the beginning and end of why the coalition is winning this war so quickly.

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By the way, I was just looking at the results of the poll in here and it seems that everyone that voted was on track.

What are your predicitions? Is there 'something' waiting for the US troops or are they just going to walkin to Bhagdad with the usual warfare they have already been experiencing.

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JB,
Yes, air support is the edge they have.
Every ground soldier kisses the  wings of those fighters.

I think they have something waiting- biochem, whatever. Whether they employ them depends on a couple of things, mainly the field commanders.

If they think they may get a break, they won't use them IF it is clear that Saddam is finished.

If they think they are dead either way they will cut loose and die fighting. Nothing to lose.

The joker in going in to Bagdad is the Al Queda. They are inside the city, waiting. They've already been spotted.

The Republican Guard will not be any real problem  inside the city. The Marines have been training in "urban warfare" for about fifteen years now. They know how to do it. The Republican Guard does not.

However, we have Delta Force inside the city right now. It has not been said openly, but I have "seen their tracks" in several things. One, that first strike on Saddam's CNC bunker. That was pure Delta all the way.

Don't be surprised if they spring our POWs either. I guarantee you they know right where they are and are planning an Op this very minute. I predict that,
if Delta gets the chance to go after our POWs, there will be LOTS of Iraqi bodies left behind. These boys take no prisoners.

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I just got word that the people in Baghdad have begun an uprising against the government.
Can't confirm at the moment, but the word is that they are going nuts and field commanders are trying to make sure it's real.

If it is, this will pretty much wind things up and bring relief to everyone concerned.

what we need to do (if it's for real) is get more troops in there pronto to back them up.

The Republican Guard may fold now.

Let's hope this is the real thing.

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Seems like the US is picking on Al-Jazeera for showing the war prisoners.

From USA Today:

Al-Jazeera Web site under cyber attack, host
says

By Peter Svensson, Associated Press

Hackers attacked the Web site of Arab satellite television
network Al-Jazeera on Tuesday, rendering it intermittently
unavailable, the site's host said.

The newly launched English-language page
(english.aljazeera.net), which went live Monday, was hardest hit
in a bombardment of data packets known as a denial-of-service
attack.

https://www.usatoday.com/tech/world/iraq/20...eera-hack_x.htm

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Modify my last post!
We're getting conflicting reports here and can't  confirm.
Looks like more to the south of Baghdad, may be some kind of Saddam hoax. Just don't know yet.

Wonder who's hacking them?

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[quote]Saddam hoax. [/quote]
Please elaborate.

Was that sandstorm a blessing or a curse? I believe it was sent to stop a lot of bloodshed. I heard one newsreporter say that if it were not for the sandstorm they would of died that day, but the Iraqis could not see what they were firing at too well.

From Deseret News:
U.S. AND BRITISH FORCES SLOWED BY SANDSTORM
Sandstorms slowed U.S. and British forces to a crawl and thwarted air missions
Tuesday as U.S.-led forces edged closer to the Iraqi capital of Baghdad. In the
south, British forces captured a senior Iraqi official and killed 20 fighters.
https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C...31164%2C00.html

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By the way, that link I gave earlier https://english.aljazeera.net is the English version of the infamous TV channel 'Al Jazeera, it is still down, but worth bookmarking as a new info source.

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Journalists covering the war via small cameras right on the front line - a miracle. This was shown on the movie, 'Starship Troopers' remember? the funny thing is in that movie they were fighting 'Iraqi' too.

From Deseret News:

EDITORIAL: 'EMBEDDING' A GOOD POLICY
In the Gulf War 12 years ago, reporters weren't allowed anywhere near the front.
They had to rely on daily briefings by Gen. H. Norman Schwarzkopf to get an idea
of what was happening.
https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C...31019%2C00.html

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From ABC News:

On the homefront, Michel Martin examines the war's impact on homeland
security.  The terrorist attacks many feared would accompany the start of
war have not yet materialized; it's impossible to know whether that's due
to heightened security, a weakened al Qaeda, or other factors.  A mock
chemical attack at Los Angeles International Airport today serves as a
stark reminder of what the nation must be prepared for.  Local and state
officials say they are spending money they don't have for security, and
former counter-terrorism czar Richard Clarke tells Michel that the nation
must be on alert for years to come.  The war and the post-war occupation
of Iraq, he says, could provide ongoing motivation for Muslim terrorists.

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Stranger, enjoy your posts a lot.

Defeating and taking over Iraq by the coalition forces is already a foregone conclusion. The question is how fast and at what costs, financially and lives.

Now losses on the American & British sides number in the double digits. Already there are a lot in the 'west' getting a bit jittery about the 'high' costs of lives, US and British lives. But what about the Iraqi side? By the hundreds! Are those lives cheaper?

And the innocent ones, the children, the infants. Did they have a say, a choice whether they agree or not agree on this 'war'? I am not even mentioning women and aged because some of them may be capable of taking arms, so they are not so innocent.   The vast number of bombs will definitely kill lots of innocent children. Collateral damage, the West calls them. But if you are a parent of one of those children killed, would you still be able to accept the view that your dead child is just a collateral damage in the bigger sheme of things .... the so-called liberation. I don't know but I think I would fight back. Because it just not doesn't make sense that people would welcome the 'killers' of their children in a friendly manner.

So, my point is, will there be overwhelming relief and happiness among the Iraqi population when Saddam is killed or will there continue to be great resentment among the people who suffered losses. Resentment and anger, thirst for revenge, it will never end. The world will not be the same anymore.

It will take at least one or two generations before the Iraqis learn to accept Americans or British as real friends again. Look at Vietnam. Suspicions still abound today in that country. The trust level is just not there even if the country is starting to 'open' up.