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Canadians are not buying it.
Post Date: 12th Mar, 2003 - 8:05pm / Post ID: #

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;D From Canada.com

CALGARY -- More than half of Canadians hold negative opinions of the United States government and its handling of the Iraq crisis, says a poll conducted a week after Liberal MP Carolyn Parrish declared she hates Americans, calling them "bastards."
Across Canada, 53 per cent of those polled said they held unfavourable views about American lawmakers when thought of within the context of looming war in Iraq.

When asked to choose the statement that best described their attitude toward the U.S., 28 per cent said their views were "not favourable at all," 25 per cent said their views were "somewhat unfavourable," 32 per cent said their views were "somewhat favourable," and 15 per cent said their views were very favourable.

"The Americans, in many Canadians' eyes, haven't yet made the case for weapons of mass destruction and haven't yet made the case -- why Iraq -- compared to a more blatant case of North Korea," said Faron Ellis, a political scientist in Lethbridge, Alta.

"This is not necessarily about having an unfavourable attitude towards the Americans, it's the government," added Mr. Ellis, also a pollster for JMCK, the Calgary-based polling company that administered the survey. In fact, the survey found that 70 per cent of Canadians felt favourably toward the American people.

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Post Date: 13th Mar, 2003 - 10:50am / Post ID: #

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Fortunately,
We don't base our foreign policy or decisions crucial to our own national or security issues based on what anyone else thinks.

Any country, Canada included, is quite welcome to disagree with us. Freedom of intellectual thought, opinion and expression of that opinion is a fundamental part of our society.

Ignoring those opinions is also one of our options.

One of the things that continually amazes me is that all over the world people are outraged because America is not swayed by what they think.

Why should we change our minds just because you don't agree with what we see as the facts of a situation?

That doesn't even make half sense.

13th Mar, 2003 - 2:43pm / Post ID: #

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[quote]Any country, Canada included, is quite welcome to disagree with us. Freedom of intellectual thought, opinion and expression of that opinion is a fundamental part of our society.[/quote]

Is it for real Stranger? I don't think so. Look at the example of this war, just think about all who are oppose to it and you will see the consequences this countries will have in the future...
The freedom of intelectual thought it's just theorical than practical.  

[quote]One of the things that continually amazes me is that all over the world people are outraged because America is not swayed by what they think.
Why should we change our minds just because you don't agree with what we see as the facts of a situation?
That doesn't even make half sense. [/quote]

Well, I think it's not the rest of the world wants the US to change their mind, after all, as you say everyone is supposed to express their views I think people all over the world are more angry about the States in this war for two major reasons:

1) They want Iraq and North Korea to disarm and I totally agree with it!...BUT.....what about the USA? Why they don't 'have' to  disarm? :smile.gif Oh yeah, because their intentions with those weapons are good ones right? :smile.gif

2) They always talk about respecting the laws and blah blah blah BUT Bush have said that 'with or WITHOUT the UN support they're going to bomb Iraq' it doesn't make sense at all! Just say you don't care what the UN has to say and stop wasting time trying to portrait something you're not!

3) Captain America attitude  and believe that nobody can tell them ANYTHING.


Those are the things people are angry about the USA. How they look so much in other's countries attitudes and in their own country they have so much to deal with it. If really the intention is good then THEY are the ones who should set the example and disarm themselves!


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Post Date: 13th Mar, 2003 - 3:22pm / Post ID: #

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LDS,
I do believe I have already said several times that I don't care what the UN thinks.

Were it up to me, I would close the building in New York down and tell them all to go open an office somewhere in Europe.

The fact that this country puts up with views that challenge the President, some even calling him evil and stupid, proves the point of intellectual dissent.

Can you imagine   womeone in Iraq calling Saddam an idiot and living to tell about it?

About Bush bombing with or without consent, you fail to comprehend that the UN is not a governing body of any kind, in any sense of the word. It is only a forum where SOVERIGN nations come to discuss things.

All this disarming stuff is what the UN is yammering about, not the US. We made up our minds to wage a war on them, and we will. It is the UN that keeps prattling about disarmament.

Bush is merely going "Yeah, yeah. Whatever".

13th Mar, 2003 - 3:45pm / Post ID: #

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[quote]I do believe I have already said several times that I don't care what the UN thinks. [/quote]

Hello? :smile.gif I was talking about Bush not you wink.gif

[quote]The fact that this country puts up with views that challenge the President, some even calling him evil and stupid, proves the point of intellectual dissent.
Can you imagine   womeone in Iraq calling Saddam an idiot and living to tell about it? [/quote]

Are you serious? you're talking about two extremes that cannot even be compared!

[quote]About Bush bombing with or without consent, you fail to comprehend that the UN is not a governing body of any kind, in any sense of the word. It is only a forum where SOVERIGN nations come to discuss things. [/quote]

I don't fail to comprehend that, I KNOW. The point is then why the hell he (Bush) bothers with them then!!!????? Or is he trying to look 'goodie goodie' ? :smile.gif

[quote]All this disarming stuff is what the UN is yammering about, not the US. We made up our minds to wage a war on them, and we will. It is the UN that keeps prattling about disarmament. [/quote]

That's so true! The first thing Bush thought about doing when he reached in power was to finish the work that his father left. EVERYBODY knows that!!! he doesn't care whether Iraq has weapons of mass destruction or not, he just care about bombing and killing everybody there including Saddam of course.










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Post Date: 13th Mar, 2003 - 10:44pm / Post ID: #

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I too, wonder why he is piddling with the UN.
I believe it is Colin Powell's influence. He is a good man, but not a field general.

Disagree with "finishing what his father did not". Bush Sr. did what he went to do, which was kick Saddam out of Kuwait.

That's all he went over there to do, and he did it. A lot of us more militant types wanted him to take it "to the bone", but he didn't.

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13th Mar, 2003 - 11:32pm / Post ID: #

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[QUOTE]That's all he went over there to do, and he did it. A lot of us more militant types wanted him to take it "to the bone", but he didn't. [/quote]

You may be right about Bush sr. going to Iraq only to kick Saddam out of Kuwaitt but definetly Bush jr don't think the same way! he's going to kick Saddam for good!!! (I'm wonder how the father feels about it)


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14th Mar, 2003 - 12:14am / Post ID: #

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[quote](I'm wonder how the father feels about it) [/quote]
He is all for it and is probably inspiring him too.


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