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What a interesting debate this is becoming. I know that my God is a great god. I doubt that other gods would laugh at him as there are no other gods. Therefore he does as he wishes. He is the one who created it all. He is the one who decided that the world needed cleaning. I just am a follower of his. I believe many know him just not by the same name.

To me he is Jehovah. To others he is Allah. Others even know him by other names. But what ever faith you put yourself to we all are celebrating the same god.

Was the Flood a myth? Was Sodom and Gomorrah a myth? The more we learn about this world the more that we re finding evidence that there was a great flood and that two cities did disappear. I do not think either event is that far fetched to not have occurred.

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Thanks for the dogmatic [nonsense] boys.

Nice to know that your gods can kill humans with impunity.

Let's all bow down to the alien god who likes to kill us.

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Do ye not know that ye are Gods?

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JB: Do you always have to resort to stereotyping to make a point? Watch yourself and observe the Rules.

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One thing I notice about GreatestIam's form of debate is that instead of trying to share resources or backup material to make his point he reverts to name calling and stereotyping which is not allowed here. If you cannot debate in a Constructive manner then stop Posting Threads that will get Replies that you do not like.

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KNtoran. There is a lot of evidence that the world had floods. But there is no geological record that there was ever a world wide flood . Not even close. Where did you get this information from?

Ark Finishing Traitor Or Insane Noah Was

From my research there is evidence either way. Many things I know to be fact sound impossible or made up. So who am I to say this did not actually occur.

The question is if you were posed the option of being Noah, would you have done what he did, and were his actions insane.

I think yes, his actions were insane by todays standards. However I would have done close to the exact same thing he did. I think truthfully most, after trying to save and warn others, would cut and run when the time came. You can only do so much, he was one man. If he was constructing such a boat he would have had little time for anything else.

Also you are assuming that he had an option. When a man such as him is on a path, they are 100 percent sure of their actions. Like a soldier commanded by a superior officer, there is no room for debate. His faith and devotion would not have allowed him to have any another option. I doubt one such as him had even a passing thought on wether he was doing the right thing, he just knew his path. We should all be so lucky.

Was Noah Insane Or A Traitor For Finishing The Ark

Oliron said :

Oliron, I think your absolutely right. We have to remember that, Noah was a prophet of God. He talked to God, in two way conversations. He knew first hand, of Gods reality. God commanded Noah to build an ark, and Noah was obedient. God commanded Noah to warn the wicked people of the world, of their fate, if they didn't repent. Again, Noah was obedient. And the wicked scoffed at Noah, and tried to kill him. But, God protected Noah and his family. Noah preached repentance for 120 years, knowing that the flood was coming. But no one listened.
The question posed here was, is Noah an insane traitor?
Traitor to who?... The wicked who he tried to warn, and who tried to kill him.
Or, a traitor to God, who loved and protected him. I don't think Noah ever felt he had to choose sides. He knew whose side he was on.
The author of this thread, presupposes that Noah had the power to cause the flood, or to stop the flood, by denying God. But, in reality, the flood was coming with or without Noah. Noah didn't push the Y button and flood the world. The wicked caused that. All Noah did, was accept Gods protection, and do what God asked him to do.

Rather off topic, but...
The author of this thread, greatesti.., seems to have purposely designed all his threads, to cast doubt in the minds of Christians. Then he seems to get angry, when someone challenges him.

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So you like man's calling as it pertains to God.

God, the metaphorical gardener, plants Adam and Eve and grows that perfection to 8.

At the cost of millions including, innocent little children and babies who did nothing wrong, and were therefore pure stock, so to speak.

From this 8, at that rate, would you be a new Noah, and finish the button that would bring death to Billions, now, including the innocent ones around you?

All for an alien God?

Truly now.

Would you kill those around you now and sire the next billions to die at God's next harvesting?

Regards
DL


Oliron

It don't get more honest than he is insane and I will follow his lead.

Regards
DL


Edited: GreatestIam on 18th Jan, 2010 - 8:20pm

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GreatestI..said

G,
you claim to be Catholic, if thats true, then please explain why your church baptises babies.In the above statement, you admit that they're "pure" and "innocent".
As to whether or not I'd kill them, of corse I wouldn't. And neither did Noah. That was Gods decision. Why do you think Noah should have died with everyone else ? Noah didn't deserve the punishment (God enforcing His laws), they did. You obviously did not touch the mind of God, as you say. At least not my God, the God of heaven, and life. If you had, then you'd know that there are no mistakes. That the cleansing was necessary, and part of the plan. Maybe if you showed some faith, He'd let you understand some of His mysteries.

Here's a mystery for you, no one really dies. You are given time here to prove weather you're weed or grain. At harvest time, you are what you are.
You aren't forced to be either, it's up to you. If when your time is up, you're found to be a weed, then you'll be cast out. If you can't follow my rules, I wouldn't let you in my house either. You might break my fine china ,track mud across my white carpet, and misuse the various powers at my disposal.

Quit looking at Him like an alien, and try seeing Him as a Father who loves you like a child.

By the way G,
I do give you credit, for thinking outside the box, and not being duped by mainstream Christianity. I view a lot of it, as little more than idol worship, myself.

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