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U.S.A. Gays in the Military
Post Date: 22nd Oct, 2010 - 8:58pm / Post ID: #

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With New Limits, US Military Reinstates "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

The military's seventeen-year-old ban on openly gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people from joining the US military is back on the books. But based on a new directive, only five senior military officials will be able to discharge service members for violating the policy. The change makes it harder for the military to remove openly gay troops. We speak to one of the most vocal critics of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Lt. Dan Choi, who this week filed papers to re-enlist after being discharged earlier this year. Ref. Source 8

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Post Date: 22nd Oct, 2010 - 9:00pm / Post ID: #

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Does Opposing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Bolster US Militarism? A Debate with Lt. Dan Choi and Queer Activist Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore

We host a debate on whether the queer rights movement should be focused on repealing the Don't Ask, Don't Tell law between Lt. Dan Choi and queer antiwar activist and writer Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore. Celebrating the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Sycamore says, only makes progressive movements in the US complicit with American wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Ref. Source 9

Post Date: 23rd Oct, 2010 - 6:18am / Post ID: #

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Hello again Mr. Debate,

I agree. The government does make its decisions with the dollar in mind. The politicians do the same thing with votes in mind.

And the special interests lobbies have their motivations too. The majority of the people pushing for the repeal of DADT have no intention of joining the military. It is just a vehicle to push their agenda. Homosexuals who really want to serve do so under the current policy. Once the policy is repealed, there may be a small handful that join openly, as well as others who may have been separated previously.

Myself, I do not care if a person is heterosexual or not, but I do have concerns about how it will impact things if the policy is changed. Gates seems to want to do it slowly and deliberately. Special interests and some politicians are looking for a draconian implementation that could derail a lot of things.

Using Obama's analogy of a car with the D and R. If you just force the stick from R to D without coming to a stop first, you just destroy your transmission. Sure it can be fixed, but there is a cost associated with it.

25th Oct, 2010 - 1:35am / Post ID: #

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Actually, I would disagree with the idea that the government initially was thinking about costs associated with repeal of DADT. I see them totally focused on votes and satisfying a pledge. I do think that the administrations asking the courts to uphold DADT is an admission that they totally over looked costs and issues associated with its repeal.

Basically, the military has now been put on alert that this change truly is coming and that they need to properly prepare for it. The good thing is that our military is a very intricate process and procedure laden organization and once tasked with this job they will do a very thorough job of getting it done correctly.

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Post Date: 9th Dec, 2010 - 10:33pm / Post ID: #

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Senate blocks repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'

WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Republicans have blocked legislation that would have repealed the military's policy of "don't ask, don't tell" and allowed gay troops to serve openly. Democrats failed Thursday to cinch a procedural deal with Republicans in the waning days of the lame-duck session. The 57-40 test vote fell three votes short of the 60 needed to advance. The vote ends months of political wrangling on the bill and makes congressional action on the repeal provision unlikely any time soon. Ref. USAToday

Post Date: 15th Dec, 2010 - 11:07pm / Post ID: #

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Overturned

The House votes to overturn "don't ask, don't tell," which bans gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military. Ref. CNN

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Post Date: 18th Dec, 2010 - 9:22pm / Post ID: #

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Don't Ask Don't Tell Repeal

WASHINGTON (AP) - In a landmark for gay rights, the Senate on Saturday voted to let gays serve openly in the military, giving President Obama the chance to fulfill a campaign promise and repeal the 17-year policy known as "don't ask, don't tell." Obama was expected to sign it next week, although the change wouldn't take immediate effect. The Senate vote was 65-31. The House had passed an identical version of the bill, 250-175, on Wednesday. Ref. USAToday

20th Dec, 2010 - 1:43am / Post ID: #

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If Obama is smart he puts a long fuse on the activation of this legislation until a point where the ramifications have been laid out and training has been administered to the forces. Otherwise, this is sure to cost a billion or to when the government gets sued.


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