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Jesus To Father. About The Plan And My Death, Get

Jesus said to the Father. About the Plan and my death, get serious.

Some believe that the Father would tell Jesus that they would create humans with original sin. Then they would impregnate Mary with Himself as her child so that He could be born as human and Himself. He then would commit suicide as a sacrifice to Himself to save man from the sin that He had condemned and created man to do.

This is one view.

The real view is that we are born with sinning nature thanks to the evolutionary system that we have in place and working on an ongoing basis. We either compete/evil or cooperate/good, to evolve ourselves to a higher degree of perfection as all are created perfect.

Deuteronomy 32:4

The above is one view of God.

If a God actually placed evolution here, then because of it's perfect nature, He would never have to return to fix what is working perfectly and we truly have dominion over the earth.

Man is the supreme force here. Not a God.

The vicarious redemption of Jesus as shown above is not only unlikely, it also places us all on a scapegoat and this is an immoral position that a God would not force upon us. That would be an immoral act. We are all responsible for our own actions and sins. God in fact rejected vicarious redemption--why have you forsaken me--because the death of an innocent man for the sins of others is not justice.


If scripture is to be believed then man must sin to earn heaven.

2 Peter 3:9 KJ

Repentance is to follow sin. We must sin first, so it can be said that God wants man to sin.

Why? To repent because repenting is what forms our moral sense. Without sin, this is not possible.

The writers of scriptures knew this and this is why they had Eve fall. As the above shows, the fall was not a fall but a fall up, so to speak, to a moral sense.

To think that a God would hold back the knowledge of good and evil is false.
Man is not a total human without a moral sense and this can only come with the knowledge of good and evil.

Be it God's will or evolutions purpose then there can be no hell as all are saved. In this we have no choice as to think otherwise would be to think that God's will can be thwarted or that evolution is imperfect. Both of these I see as impossible.

Is the vicarious redemption of Jesus evil?
Does God want us to sin?

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Get Death My Plan The Father Jesus

Isn't that a perfect definition of an Atheist?

Jesus To Father. About The Plan And My Death, Get Revealed Bible The

The original poster is either still searching, challenged in some way and does not fully comprehend the nature of god or simply confused. Anyway, a good reading of the Gospels can help you see that central to this earth is Jesus not you as one person.