Are Masons Christians?

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25th Feb, 2003 - 3:21pm / Post ID: #

Are Masons Christians?

Would the Masons be considered a religious organization or a club? What are their beliefs? I understand that they have a 'secret' order and are not allowed to talk about all their 'traditions' but it would be nice if a member of this society could elaborate.



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25th Feb, 2003 - 4:14pm / Post ID: #

Christians Masons Are

That's a good question. Some of them say they're christians while others say they're not. The lodge has people from all kind of religions including buddhists and hindues.
In one of their official web sites they have online they are very clear that they're not a religion BUT the person who wants to joing must be a believer of God. No atheitist are allowed to join.
Meetings open with prayer, and a Mason is taught, as one of the first lessons of Masonry, that one should pray for divine counsel and guidance before starting an important undertaking.  But that does not make Masonry a "religion."
n much the same way masons believe in the importance of religion.  Masonry encourages every Mason to be active in the religion and church of his own choice.  Masonry teaches that, without religion, a man is alone and lost, and that without religion, he can never reach his full potential.
But Freemasonry does not tell a person which religion he should practice or how he should practice it.  That is between the individual and God.  That is the function of his house of worship, not his fraternity.  And Masonry is a fraternity, not a religion.
These are some of their beliefs:

Since God is the Creator, all men and women are the children of God. Because of that, all men and women are brothers and sisters, entitled to dignity, respect for their opinions, and consideration of their feelings.

Each person must take responsibility for his/her own life and actions. Neither wealth nor poverty, education nor ignorance, health nor sickness excuses any person from doing the best he or she can do or being the best person possible under the circumstances.

No one has the right to tell another person what he or she must think or believe. Each man and woman has an absolute right to intellectual, spiritual, economic, and political freedom.  This is the right given by God, not by man.  All tyranny, in every form, is illegitimate.

Each person must learn and practice self-control. Each person must make sure his spiritual nature triumphs over his animal nature.  Another way to say the same thing is that even when we are tempted to anger, we must not be violent.  Even when we are tempted to selfishness, we must be charitable.  Even when we want to "write someone off," we must remember that he or she is a human and entitled to our respect.

Even when we want to give up, we must go on. Even when we are hated, we must return love, or, at a minimum, we must not hate back.  It isn't easy.

Faith must be in the center of our lives.  We find that faith in our houses of worship, not in Freemasonry,  but Masonry constantly teaches that a person's faith, whatever it may be, is central to a good life.

Each person has a responsibility to be a good citizen, obeying the law.  That doesn't mean we can't try
to change things, but change must take place in legal ways.

It is important to work to make this world better for all who live in it. Masonry teaches the importance of doing good, not because it assures a person's entrance into heaven -- that's a question for a religion, not a fraternity -- but because we have a duty to all other men and women to make their lives as fulfilling as they can be.

Honor and integrity are essential to life.  Life, without honor and integrity, is without meaning.


For more information check this web site https://www.scgrandlodgeafm.org/



5th Mar, 2003 - 3:50pm / Post ID: #

Are Masons Christians? Paranormal & Mystics Dreams Studies

Thanks for the detailed info I hope a member or ex member of a Lodge can add to this.



Post Date: 7th May, 2003 - 6:07pm / Post ID: #

Are Masons Christians?
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Christians Masons Are

I can tell you a bit about it and that the Catholic Church totally disapproves of it.  Catholics are not allowed to become a Freemason and if one decides to join, he will be in serious sin and can even be excommunicated !
Its mentioned that it has all the elements of a religion but it is naturalistic, parallels the Christian religion and promotes indifferentism.  
Indifferentism meaning that a person can be equally pleasing to God while remaining in any religion.
Naturalism meaning that human nature and human reason in all things ought to be the guide. They care little of the duties to God, they deny that anything has been taught by God and they allow no dogma of truth or religion  which cannot be understood by human intelligence.
It is essentially a religion of reason, a natural religion of man.
It is said that Freemasonry opposes the first commandment, "Thou shalt not have strange Gods before me".
The Catholic Church believes that what the Masons really worship is man or the spirit that has decieved man from the beginning...the masked spirit of evil. This is the main reason for the Church's opposition.
To answer your question Masons are not Christians for it is totally incompatible with Christianity.
Its is also not a fraternity/social club....there are reasons for this but I've already written too much.

Post Date: 30th May, 2003 - 2:57am / Post ID: #

Are Masons Christians?
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Christians Masons Are

"Would the Masons be considered a religious organization or a club?"

Neither, they consider themselves a brotherhood.  Discussions about religion are not tolerated in lodge meetings as a rule because they don't want contention amoung the "brethern" they do have several rules however, the first one being, you have to acknowledge that God exist, and you have to live by a certain code of common morality (honesty faithful to your wife etc)

I know this is a discussion about Masons but I'm going to bring in a little lds history into this simply because Joseph Smith, Hyrum Smith, Brigham Young, and Heber Kimball were all masons.  And many of the other early lds males.

Like our church, the masons divide up into quorumes, depending on who you talk to some say they have nothing to do with any priesthood some say they are a priesthood.  They have deacons elders etc and each quorume has a presidency like our priesthood quorumes do, made up of a president and two counclors.

They have ordinances in their masonic temples that they claim came from King Solomon's temple, in fact they claim that the term mason came from the masons that worked on the contruction of King Solomon's temple.  There are some similar points between lds temple worship and masonic worship, however both fordid discussions of these ordinances outside of their temples.  Needless to say many of the critics of Joseph Smith like to link him to masonry as if it was a big secret but it was not, Joseph Smith was plain about his affiliations with the Masons, and he was plain that he felt the masons held what he termed as an altered view of the Ordinances of King Solomon's temple (keep in mind that King Solomon's temple was performed by Priest of the Aaronic Order)

Mormon temple symbols and mason temple symbols are similar as well.  For example, at the Salt Lake temple, in front of the door there is a symbol of the "all seeing eye" this symbol was a masonic symbol used in Masonic temples.  Also the Beehive as a symbol for the state of Utah is also a symbol in freemasony.  Although there are similar symbols that does not mean they have similar meanings.  Prior to the comletion of the Nauvoo temple, Joseph Smith was known to use the Masonic lodge on occasions for ordinance work.

Some Masons outside of the lds church thought that Joseph Smith was going againt Masonic code so some of the Cathage greys (those who assasinated Joseph Smith and Hyrum) were in fact Mason's and Joseph Smith in saying "Oh Lord my God" was using a masonic destress call which was a way of calling masons in times of distress but in Joseph Smith's case he was also in a way calling them to repent because murder is against masonic code, and the distress call he was using was because of what they were doing.

Other famous masons include George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and many others.

If you ever have a dollar bill and you look at the back you will see a pyramid with an eye on top, that is the all seeing eye used by masons.  The dollar bill is loaded with masonic symbols.

Post Date: 15th Jun, 2003 - 1:25pm / Post ID: #

Are Masons Christians?
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Are Masons Christians?

Other famous masons include George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and many others.

you forget to metion G.W.Bush
Order of Skull and Bones. They adopted the numerological symbol 322 because their group was the second chapter of the German organization and founded in 1832

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16th Jun, 2003 - 3:54pm / Post ID: #

Are Masons Christians

Its interesting how many men of influence belong to this group. I wonder if anyone has ever been disppointed from being part of its' membership?



Post Date: 18th Nov, 2003 - 4:44pm / Post ID: #

Are Masons Christians?
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Hello,

Well, this is a pretty late post, but since I just signed up you will have to forgive me if I post on a topic that might be a little cold.  

There are Masons of all kinds.  The most "recognized" would be those affiliated with the United Grand Lodge of England but there are many many lodges that are not.  I don't see a lot of historical basis for letting UGLE say who is and who is not a true Mason.  That aside, there are masons in pretty much every religion, that is I have not heard of a religion who has no member in a lodge (very definitely including catholocism).

There was a time where you had to be a sworn christian to be in a UGLE recognized lodge.  Now you have to believe in a supreme power but for the most part no definitions are forced on you.  This is the general rule.  Lodges are very different one from anothetr and Grand Lodges even more so.  There are still many lodges that will blackball an applicant on the basis of race although it is generally against the rules.  There are also grand lodges whose lodges do not require a belief in God, however, these are not accepted by UGLE, as lodges who accept women are not considered "regular".  Yup, not in all cases does fraternity mean only male persons accepted, sometimes it means "brotherhood of mankind". (www.co-masonry.org).

Anyway, good luck on your search.  

DP

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