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20th May, 2003 - 11:34pm / Post ID: #

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This doesn't have anything to do with the plaza issue, but it's kind of connected. I was just at priesthood session this last conference(I go to BYU) and you had to have a permit to protest outside of the conference center.


Is that true? permits to protest? why a person will need a permit to protest if it's outside???



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Post Date: 21st May, 2003 - 9:46am / Post ID: #

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I don't know any specific problems they have had with protesters there, but they were just worried about the usual: profanity, disruptive behavior, anti-mormon posters. These all would distract from the atmosphere that exists in the plaza. There are a ton of marriages there each day and it would be hard to have people interfering with the photography for one. As far as the permits go... it is pretty common in a large city to have to buy a permit to protest, especially in downtown areas due to traffic problems and crowd control problems(after all at least 21,000 people show up for a session of conference). Plus it gives the police force in a city advanced notice so they can prepare and more effectively keep the peace. That's my guess:)

21st May, 2003 - 9:50am / Post ID: #

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Thanks for the reply, I have heard that Antis take it to the point of even showing up in temple clothing when they make their 'protests'. Ever seen anything like that?



Post Date: 21st May, 2003 - 10:03am / Post ID: #

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Fortunately I don't recall seeing any anti's in temple clothing. All I remember are protesters saying we need to repent through Jesus Christ. "And I'm thinking, yeah we do that":) Also they had signs saying we need to read the bible. And I'm thinking, "yeah, we do that too." Of course, there were reasons they said those things that I won't go into.

30th Jul, 2003 - 9:38pm / Post ID: #

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Seems like the Church got what they wanted, was it worth the tithing?

BISHOP BURTON CALLS MAIN STREET PLAZA AGREEMENT "GLORIOUS"
See https://www.sltrib.com/2003/jul/07292003/utah/79390.asp
See https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,5100...0043131,00.html

Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson and Presiding Bishop H. David Burton
took only two minutes Monday to hand over access rights to the Church.
Anderson declared Monday's legal formalities "momentous." Bishop Burton
called the day "glorious" and said the community has worked out its
differences through the agreement. "President Hinckley has said that our
most important goal as neighbors is to live together in peace with
appreciation and respect for one another. This compromise demonstrates our
commitment to that goal."



Post Date: 3rd Aug, 2003 - 4:12pm / Post ID: #

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Some "anti-church" protestors used the plaza as a place to shout obscenities and/or anti-church statements.  Some members were physically harrassed...and some visitors engaged in drunk and disorderly conduct to cite a few incidents of behavior.

The Church worked out an agreement with the City where they contributed to a program or shelter (I forget which) for the needy in exchange for exclusive access.  That arrangement has taken effect.

However, the case is still pending before the US Supreme Court and the Attorneys General of several states have filed "friend of the court briefs" while very few organizations (ACLU) have filed on behalf of petitioners.  The friend of the court briefs point out that if this precedent is set all state governments will be stifled in their attempt to sell property because the petitioner is maintaining it reserved an easement with the transfer of title.

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3rd Aug, 2003 - 5:10pm / Post ID: #

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Thanks for updating us on that. It is interesting how people go through so much trouble to show their hate for the Church. Many of them former members are twice as dark now than before their baptism.

I wonder, does the Church think to stop the protestors by doing this or is it meant to just make it harder for them?



4th Aug, 2003 - 11:35am / Post ID: #

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:spock: Looks like this is far from over.

UNITARIANS TO FILE PLAZA SUIT
The congregation of the First Unitarian Church, 569 S. 1300 East, voted
overwhelmingly Sunday to sue Salt Lake City to prevent turning over the public
access easement on the Main Street Plaza.
https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C...44566%2C00.html



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