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Being a black student at BYU can be difficult. There are 30,426 students enrolled at BYU, 158 are black and race is also an issue. Most of it, according to this article, is out of ignorance rather than purposely trying to hurt.
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| PROVO - While attending Black History Month events at Brigham Young University this month, many black students have spoken out about their feelings on being a minority at the university - and issues that arise from being black and Mormon. Of the 30,426 students enrolled at BYU, 158 are black, according to BYU statistics. Black students speaking to the Deseret Morning News at a recent Black History Month presentation emphasized they have been treated very well at BYU - by faculty and students alike. But being a minority anywhere is difficult, they said. Niiboi Amertev, 25, a junior from Ghana, said sometimes he feels white people in Utah don't feel comfortable around him, and he can tell by their body language. "Actions speak louder than words," Amertev said. Barima Kwarteng, 20, a sophomore from Ghana, said most people at BYU simply don't have a lot of exposure to blacks, and they don't really understand black people. "I get the impression they think I'm here to play sports," said Kwarteng, who is majoring in computer engineering. Catherine Spruill, 27, of Steilacoom, Wash., a senior, said, "People make ignorant remarks. They're not worth remembering. We've been commanded to forgive. The easiest way to forgive something is to forget about it." Some black students said they wish the school would recruit more blacks so they wouldn't be such a minority. "There should be more outreach," said Noah Morris, 29, BYU's Black Student Union president and a junior born in Nigeria. BYU does have a national multicultural student recruitment program called SOAR. It starts in eighth grade and steers students toward college preparation. It includes a weeklong summer session on campus, with classes including preparation for the SAT exam, said BYU spokeswoman Carri P. Jenkins. During the past few weeks, BYU's Black Student Union hosted myriad events for Black History Month. Ahmad Corbitt, a black member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who serves as director of the church's New York Office of Public and International Affairs, spoke to about 100 students on the struggle some members have with the priesthood limitation once practiced by the church. His talk referred to the church's decision in 1978 that black male members could hold the priesthood.... |
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Niiboi Amertev, 25, a junior from Ghana, said sometimes he feels white people in Utah don't feel comfortable around him, and he can tell by their body language. "Actions speak louder than words," Amertev said |
I do not understand this statement, probably due to the fact that I am white.
I would like to know in particular what body language has to do with Race. What constitutes Body Language that would convey a certain lack of comfort level? Drawing away from someone, walking on the other side of the street, a furrowed brow? Unless a person knows what message they are putting across in their body language, how can they work to change that.
People in general are curious, interested, or mildly affected by differences in other people and cultures, Especially in a homogeneous place like BYU and Utah. This however is the universal condition of man.
I do not believe (I may be wrong) that BYU students in general are reacting adversely to black student because of their race. I think they are curious, not sure how to act around, or just ignorant of how to act around someone of a different culture and Race.
This may be a result of not being exposed to different people. My hope is that BYU can become exposed to more individuals, hopefully translating into a more natural acceptance of people that they perceive to be different.
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| Unless a person knows what message they are putting across in their body language, how can they work to change that. |
Well, if an individual changes sides of the street when they see a Black man walking, are you saying they are not aware of it? Of course they are.
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| People in general are curious, interested, or mildly affected by differences in other people and cultures, Especially in a homogeneous place like BYU and Utah. |
It USED to be that way but due to the huge amount of minorities living in Utah, it is not longer the case. I usually check a very popular TV news web site from Utah and I am appalled at the amount of racist comments people post about minorities.
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| I do not believe (I may be wrong) that BYU students in general are reacting adversely to black student because of their race. I think they are curious, not sure how to act around, or just ignorant of how to act around someone of a different culture and Race. |
Yes, I think is out of ignorance and naivety. Unfortunately, it can hurt others but hopefully most of them will ignore statements like this because they are not meant to hurt. Maybe they should be told kindly when they say things like "You are a nice guy for a Black fellow" or things of that nature.
It would be great if BYU can recruit more Black people so there is more exposure, having said that, racism is everywhere and BYU is not the exception.
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OK,
I shouldn't have used the walking on the other side of the street argument. That was dumb of me. But it seemed like the body language was more subtle, less defined ( or not mentioned at all).
So are was at a point in history where racism is subtle rather then overt? That is not a good place to be I guess, because subtly is much more difficult to fight.
My opinion is, that there will always be people posting stupid racist comments on the Web. Racism will not be eradicated until Christ comes(though we should do everything in our power to do so).
I am not sure that the postings of a few individuals implies that racism is rampant. A few dozen idiots writing on a Web site does not mean that everyone else is racist.
| Rather off topic, but... Could you please provide some comments by this Very Popular TV Web site so that I could understand the issue more clearly. |
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| So are was at a point in history where racism is subtle rather then overt? That is not a good place to be I guess, because subtly is much more difficult to fight. |
In this particular case, I do not think the people do it on purpose because they don't like Black folks, it is just lack of exposure but I am sure there are some that struggle with it like anywhere else.
| Rather off topic, but... They do not have any news concerning Mexicans today, but when they do, I will send you the link to see for yourself. |
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Yes, that's the topic at hand. I was referring to this statement of yours:
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| People in general are curious, interested, or mildly affected by differences in other people and cultures, Especially in a homogeneous place like BYU and Utah. |
I was speaking about Utah specifically, not necessary about Black minorities.
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