Tena, sometimes the laws of the land are not in harmony with the Gospel itself. This whole issue of gay marriages is the proof of that, just because is 'legal' in the eyes of the world, it doesn't make it 'acceptable' in the eyes of God. JB explained really good what the Law of Chastity is, I think most people tend to think that is only for single people but when I teach in the Church (if I have to in Relief Society) I always try to remind them to the sisters that the Law of Chastity applies to married members also, yes, some they seem surprised, I suppose because of the emphasis the Church gives to the Youth on this subject.
Nobody can be excommunicated from the Church for being 'gay', actually I know several members in the Church in my country who are gay and they still being members in good standing, yes, struggling sometimes with their inner feelings but knowing what is right. We cannot pretend that we could accept gay marriages in the Church and not think they will have no sexual relations. They will, so wether they're married or not, they're breaking the Chastity Law and engaging in homosexuality behavior. I know this may sound harsh for our loving members who suffer of homosexuality but this is the will of God. Is our responsibilty as members to love particularly those who are in need and I think we should welcome them in our Church meetings, love them, be friend with them and help them to go through this opposition in their lives. We are 'nobody' to judge other people and we should not do it because like I always say we never know if we or a loved one will be in a similar situation in the future. We all have weaknesses, some weaknesses may seem stronger but they're not, they're just different.
Kd, yes you're right but I don't think Tena is saying homosexuality is right, what she's asking is if we should allow gays in the Church to get married since they can lawfuly doing it in some states.
Exactly, LDS, I am not at all saying I think homosexual behavior is o.k. I agree that it is an abomination in the sight of the Lord. JB's definition regarding the Law of Chastity would then mean that members married legally, but to same sex partners would, in fact, be breaking this law. This is the first time though that I have seen the Law of Chastity defined specifically to say homosexual sex even if married I have only heard the quote to say no sex outside of marriage and then the follow up was to say this explains why sex between homosexuals breaks the rule because they aren't married. Of course, up until now it was impossible to be married to a member of the same sex so that might explain it. JB, from where do you get your source of specifics what the Law of Chastity expressly forbids.
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JB, from where do you get your source of specifics what the Law of Chastity expressly forbids. |
Exactly, for instance in some countries abortion is legal and the use of drugs also now do the members of the Church must be involved in such evil practises? no, they should not, whether is legal or not, it doesn't matter....we should not be part of any culture, or tradition of any country even if it's 'legal' that put down our standards as members of the Church and the Church is very strict on its view against these things.
What JB mentioned about the Law of Chastity is widely known, if I have some time I will check some quotes or references for you regards to this issue.
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JB's definition regarding the Law of Chastity would then mean that members married legally, but to same sex partners would, in fact, be breaking this law. This is the first time though that I have seen the Law of Chastity defined specifically to say homosexual sex even if married I have only heard the quote to say no sex outside of marriage |
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Yes they're breaking this Law of Chastity as consequence of homosexual relations, whether they're married legally or not, they're breaking the Chastity Law by having sex with somebody of the same gender. |
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Then they go on to say this is why homosexual sex is not right in that it is no different for any single person if you have sex and you aren't married it is breaking the Law of Chastity. Since I live in a part of the state where many liberals live as well, this probably has been an attempt by members to "justify" the Church's position on homosexual acts. |
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The fact of the matter is the policy on homosexual activity is judgmental. |