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The talk by Pres. Benson reinforces my point of the Church teaching about infallibility of Prophets which does not exist. It is not scriptural.

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I found this post (from 2003)interesting and agree with what it is saying. The quote is from Journal of Discourses. But it brought up a question which I believe is true to this discussion.
Who wrote the standard works? Was it not the prophets who, according to the doctrine of infallibility were just as much men as our latter day Prophets? If such is true, what makes the standard works any more valid than what has been given to us by today's prophets?
It seems this discussion is circular in nature, as once again I believe it comes down to following the prophets but taking it upon ourselves to be in tune with the Spirit for confirmation.

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Of course they "can" lead us astray. Chances are they won't. The Lord knows our nature and how we will act in a given situation. Have there been times when church leaders have fallen? Of course there has. But never to the detriment of the Lord's Church. He has it all mapped out and should the prophet falter he would go with the contingency plan. He knows the beginning to the end.
(D&C 38:2 The same which knoweth all things, for all things are present before mine eyes; )

I do not disagree with you. And, having read deeper into the thread, I see that Pres. Benson's talk has been discussed ad nauseum. But I may argue with you that it is not scripture. Aren't we told that our scriptures are to include Church publications these days? But then that may be a discussion for a different thread that I have yet to discover.

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alskann:

So if he gives counsel in something and I don't get confirmation on his words means I am not in tune with the Spirit? Isn't that what the Church would say if I state that what the Prophet said is not necessarily doctrinal? I am almost sure any person who talks about this and expands about it through an interview with a leader may face some serious trouble and his/her membership even in jeopardy.

Please check this thread

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LDS_Forever:

It might. I believe that if the prophet gives us counsel we should do our best to follow it. I do not see anything wrong with asking the Lord for confirmation if we find a conflict in that counsel. If that confirmation does not come right away we should continue to seek guidance from the Lord until we find an answer. Perhaps sometimes the answer is just that the Prophet IS the mouthpiece of the Lord. Sometimes it is okay to follow just because the Prophet said so. At least until we can work it out within ourselves. We must find some resolution if we are to truly follow the Prophet's counsel.

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alskann:

In few words, according to you (minus the "might", "maybes" and "sometimes" of your posts ) If the Prophet said so, is enough. Okay, well we definetely disagree on this. As I stated earlier, I don't believe in the infallibility of any man, having said that I believe in praying seeking confirmation that his words are true and revelation from our Father in Heaven (no taking it for granted as if every word he speaks comes from God) and not just his views on the topic. What I gather from your posts is that someone should pray to accept what the prophet said, after all, he cannot lead us astray.

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LDS_Forever:

Not exactly. I don't seem to be explaining my point of view all that well. Let's try again:
He won't lead us astray, not because he is infallible, but because IF we are spiritually in tune and living close to the Lord the Holy Spirit will give us a heads up before it gets that far. If, per chance, a prophet should for whatever reason fall we "could" be led astray quite easily if we are not used to listening to the promptings of the Spirit.

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Interesting take Alaskann but that is not what the Church teaches, see your own quote from Benson and many others within the Thread.

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I am not quite sure what you are saying here. I am not saying the Prophet will lead us astray. I said, since prophets are mortal men, they are subject to human frailities and temptation. Thus, "should" a prophet ever falter then it is possible for a person to be led astray if they are not in tune. Personally, I do not believe the Prophet will ever falter. I believe the Lord would take him out first. I have known more than one prophet personally. They are mortal men with human wants and desires. They are also VERY good and holy men who have conquered self-mastery. They avoid situations that may lead them to temptation of any sort, therefore, I do not believe they will ever lead us astray.
That said, regardless of how much I sustain and follow the Prophet I still have the responsibility to seek my own personal revelation. Without that personal revelation why would I even believe he was a prophet in the first place? That said, if I then believe he is the prophet and mouthpiece of God then why would I not follow his teachings? If God spoke to me, I would listen and obey. Why would this be any different? But, if God spoke to ME I would want to make sure it was Him and not Satan trying to pull one over on me. And I do not believe God would be offended for my doing so.

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