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[quote]...if my offender hasn't repented and isn't sorry, do I still need to forgive them?[/quote]
I believe the following scriptures will answer your questions, especially the last.

Matthew
6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will
also forgive you: 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,
neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother
sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?  18:22 Jesus
saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until
seventy times seven.

18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye
from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

Mark
11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in
heaven forgive your trespasses.

"Ye ought to forgive one another; for he that forgiveth not his brother his trespasses standeth condemned before the Lord; for there remaineth in him the greater sin. I, the Lord, will forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men." (D.C. 64:9-10)

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[quote]
I, the Lord, will forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men." (D.C. 64:9-10)[/quote]

That part of the scripture is exactly what I needed to be reminded of.  So, that tells me that I need to forgive someone even if they are still doing whatever it is that caused me grief or pain.  So, while I may need time to work it out in my mind, etc., and resolve the issue enough to allow the Holy Ghost to work on me, I still must forgive  then regardless of what they are doing and regardless of whether or not they gain forgiveness of the Savior.  Thank you.

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Easily said, 'forgive', but so hard to do sometimes. It is an 'art' that takes a lifetime and more to master I am sure.

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We are told in D&C 64:10 to forgive all men:
[quote]" I the Lord, will forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men." D&C 64:10[/quote],  then in Matthew to love our enemies: [quote] " But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." Matt. 5:44[/quote]

This was part of my lesson in Primary a year ago. I really must have gotten the message across because one of the 9 year old boys asked me if we are to forgive Satan and to love him?  

This really stumped me, and the Primary Presidency.
After sharing time, I went to the Branch Presidency over Primary and asked him.  He said, no because Satan is not a man.  

I was not satisfied with this answer, but I also let it slide, and in reading through the various topics on this board, I am reminded once again that I have not answered this little boy.  

What is your answer to this 9 year old boy?  Are we to forgive and to love Satan?

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Well, I don't think we should love Satan.  Forgive maybe though.  In the sense that forgive means to let go of bitterness and anger.  No reason to be angry at Satan, what he does really is a necessary part of the plan.  However, I think your Branch President is right.  Satan is not a man, so I don't think it really applies.  I think we are to forgive other people, Satan is not a person.

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" I would like to make it clear that forgiveness of sins should not be confused with tolerating evil. In fact, in the Joseph Smith Translation, the Lord said, "Judge righteous judgment." The Savior asks us to forsake and combat evil in all its forms, and although we must forgive a neighbor who injures us, we should still work constructively to prevent that injury from being repeated. A woman who is abused should not seek revenge, but neither should she feel that she cannot take steps to prevent further abuse. A businessperson treated unfairly in a transaction should not hate the person who was dishonest but could take appropriate steps to remedy the wrong. Forgiveness does not require us to accept or tolerate evil. It does not require us to ignore the wrong that we see in the world around us or in our own lives. But as we fight against sin, we must not allow hatred or anger to control our thoughts or actions." (Elder David E. Sorensen Of the Presidency of the Seventy).


https://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Mag...20to%20love.htm

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In answer to whether we should love and forgive Satan or not, I believe that we as members of the church, are to despise all evil.

This is where Satan tried to tempt Jesus to put himself up on a temple and then cast himself down from it, to prove he was the Son of God. To me, Jesus showed us an example, like LDS, of not tolerating evil.

However, should I hate Satan, or what he does? Then I found this, and it's helpful to me to read:

Website: https://www.mormonhaven.com/greg4.htm

As to the question of whether there is an appropriate time to forgive, I definitely concur with the doctrine of forgiveness being required from me, and that forgiveness is a process, not an event. I remember being taught in a stake conference once by the stake president that our admission into the Celestial Kingdom will in part be determined by our willing forgiveness of others in our lifetime. I believe that applies to those who were able to forgive as well as those that were either in the process of forgiving, were working on being able to forgive, and had the desire to forgive.