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It seems to me that the Church has a hard time to determine what is "opinion" and what is "doctrine" from past leaders. I would like to know who can really say that what Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and other leaders said centuries ago could be considered one or another? I think we need to be straight, if we do not want that everyone else is confused, then the Church leaders need to stop quoting from the Journal of Discourses as convenient on whatever topic they want to discuss and then disregard the parts that seem more controversial to their views.

Whether if Jesus was married or not is Church doctrine, the fact that the founder of our Church proclaimed himself as a literal descendant of Christ, leaves little or no doubt that in fact Christ was married.

There could be many reasons why the Church does not come forward with the topic. Could it be that maybe the early leaders have received a personal witness about this matter and our present day leaders have not? After all, I have heard Pres. Hinckley saying that there is no need for more "revelation" like in the times of Joseph Smith since all things have been restored, making it pretty clear that the Church is just "following" with what we already "know" and leaving a question in everybody's minds of whether Angelical Visitations and Revelations of the type of Joseph Smith are continuing or not at our present time.


These type of statements by a Church spokesman confuses more than it helps. The statement does not accept that Christ was married yet it does not deny it either leaving way too much room for speculation and lay doctrine between the members of our Church. After all, most members believe that he was married since if we read Doctrine and Covenants 132, we will know why.
If the Church has a problem accepting certain topics that may be controversial then may be the wisest thing to do is to stay quiet and give no statement. After all, the Lord says in Revelation 3:16 "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth"

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What concerns me about this is the question of whether or not we are approaching this:

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That makes a lot of sense Nighthawk. It seems like the whole world is falling further away from God and Christ by trying to "uncover the truth". They aren't seeking in the right manner (though they might not know a better way) and it's only going to lead to those people not believing anything that is said in the scriptures. All of these debates cause doubt, and that erodes faith immensely. I hope our members don't fall under the same trend as the rest of the world... it's really saddening.

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That's not quite what I meant.

In the 1800's, Brigham Young and other leaders clearly taught some doctrines. But since the time of Heber J. Grant, in particular, the Church has emphasized them less and less, until now they are considered false doctrine by many people. In fact, one of the Presidents of the Church has publicly proclaimed that one of BY's strong doctrinal themes is a false doctrine.

This one, about Jesus being married, is one of them. In early days, it wasn't even questioned. There is evidence that Joseph Smith was a descendant of Jesus Christ. If that is so, then Jesus had to have been married. Very few within the Church doubted it. It was taught in General Conference. Now, we "don't know." We "don't speculate". If it isn't taught clearly in the scriptures, we don't talk about it.

That is what I meant. I hope that we haven't been receiving the "lesser" amount of light, until we have now lost much of what was restored.

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Sorry Nighthawk. I guess the scriptures do speak differently to you depending on who you are. : )
I never heard about that being taught, though I'm probably too young to have heard it when it was current. Maybe it isn't confirmed as false doctrine, but it isn't necessary that we focus on it and continue to teach it until the time is right.

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That is a very interesting point of view. It was clearly taught as true doctrine for decades in the mid-1800s. However, after 1890, this doctrine, along with a few other "deep" doctrines, were pushed aside.

My point of view is that the Church decided to make itself agreeable to Babylon, and in order to do so, gave up on the special doctrines that made us peculiar.

But that is a topic to be discussed elsewhere.

The point is, that at one time, it was a clear and unambiguous doctrine of the LDS Church that Jesus WAS married, and most likely had at least three wives.

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I suppose it's a reasonable sacrifice, to do away with less-important teachings so that our church wouldn't be as unacceptable to others, and so more people would be drawn to the more important truths. Sometimes I wish I could just understand everything, all of what we have and maybe even what we don't yet have, and accept it as an entire truth.

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dbclayton said:

Why we should be concern about our Church being "acceptable" to others? Then it seems like we are more concerned about what others think than the truth itself (even if it is not that "important"). The Brethren in the times of Joseph Smith were not concerned about that, why are we so concerned about it now?

I firmly believe Jesus was married and as it was stated before, it was something being taught. I do not see it as a less-important teaching because I think that knowing Christ was married help us tremendously to compare to our own lives to His and know that he never expected us to do something that he did not personally do.