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Mormon doctrine on polygamy Mormon Doctrine on Plural Marriage - This Thread goes deep into all the angles of Mormon Polygamy, the requirement of Celestial Marriage which once encompassed Plural Marriage and the current standing of it with the modern Church. Also deeply analyzed is Joseph Smith's secret practise of it that latter lead to his death. Controversial Mormon Issue.
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29th Jan, 2004 - 2:06pm / Post ID: #

Plural Marriage: In That Day Seven Women Shall... - Page 27

It is amazing how everyone seems to be slowly 'converting' to this concept or should I say doctrine. The next time you get to do some genealogy work and have to seal a spouse to a man that is already sealed you may get a greater revelation of the whole meaning of it. I wish I were near a temple to discuss this.



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19th Feb, 2004 - 2:33am / Post ID: #

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The other day I was thinking about Plural Marriage when I was talking with a sister of the the Church and I was thinking that really all this is because of love, of genuine love....and also, I don't know if it happen to any of you, more I study the topic, more comfortable I feel about it and more acceptance it has in my life. Those who have a lot of struggles with it I think it is because they don't know what it is all about and they're afraid to find out and they rather stay in ignorance....



19th Feb, 2004 - 2:55am / Post ID: #

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YES! The magic works!

I have found the same thing. I have long known plural marriage is right. It just took me a long time to understand some of the reasons WHY. But the Spirit definitely works on me to convince me of it.

As I have studied it, especially the testimonies of people who live(d) it, I have come to understand that it truly is much more designed for the women than the men. It most likely actually makes life more difficult for the man, but much better for the women.

I don't know if you have looked there, but I do have quite a few documents on my website on this subject.

NightHawk



19th Feb, 2004 - 3:05am / Post ID: #

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Hmmm I don't remember seeing it, would you please give me that link again of your web site?. Thanks.



20th Feb, 2004 - 12:34am / Post ID: #

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It is: www.bordeglobal.com/foruminv/index.php?showforum=120 (I thought I sent it to you in an email).

There are a lot of documents, various types, on it, including all of the Journals of Discourses. Some of the documents are frankly critical of the church, many are not, there are even some that don't relate much to the church.

You might find the document 27 Rules of Celestial Marriage particularly interesting.

NightHawk



22nd Feb, 2004 - 7:14pm / Post ID: #

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I was thinking today about Emma Smith and how hard it was for her to accept the doctrine of Plural Marriage, like we all know, after Joseph's death she always denied that he ever had more than one wife....does anybody have any information about Emma's status of membership after she left the Church?. Was she "technically' right in saying that Joseph didn't have more than one wife? (theory: he was sealed with several sisters as we know without living as a husband with them in this life). What are your thoughts?.

Reconcile Edited: LDS_forever on 22nd Feb, 2004 - 7:15pm



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22nd Feb, 2004 - 7:38pm / Post ID: #

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Essentially, she was excommunicated. I have a lot of quotes about her. Here are a couple:

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Brigham Young:
I never saw the day in the world that I would not almost worship that woman, Emma Smith, if she would be a saint instead of being a devil. I feel so today. There is no good thing in a temporal point of view that I would withhold from her; anything that is in my power to do for her, I would willingly do with all my heart, and with an open hand. ... Emma is naturally a very smart woman; she is subtle and ingenious, and she has made all her children believe that myself, brother Kimball, and the other members of the Twelve laid the plot which terminated in the death of the Prophet. This charge is especially laid to myself. ... She has made her children inherit lies. TO MY CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE EMMA SMITH IS ONE OF THE DAMNEDEST LIARS I KNOW OF ON THIS EARTH; yet there is no good thing I would refuse to do for her, if she would only be a righteous woman; but she will continue in her wickedness. Not six months before the death of Joseph, he called his wife Emma into a secret council, and there he told her the truth, and CALLED UPON HER TO DENY IT IF SHE COULD. He told her that the judgments of God would come upon her forthwith if she did not repent. HE TOLD HER OF THE TIME SHE UNDERTOOK TO POISON HIM, AND HE TOLD HER THAT SHE WAS A CHILD OF HELL, AND LITERALLY THE MOST WICKED WOMAN ON THIS EARTH, THAT THERE WAS NOT ONE MORE WICKED THAN SHE. He told her where she got the poison, and how she put it in a cup of coffee; said he, "You got the poison so and so, and I drank it, but you could not kill me." When it entered his stomach he went to the door and threw it off. He spoke to her in that council in a very severe manner, and SHE NEVER SAID ONE WORD IN REPLY. I HAVE WITNESSES OF THIS SCENE ALL AROUND, WHO CAN TESTIFY THAT I AM NOW TELLING THE TRUTH. TWICE SHE UNDERTOOK TO KILL HIM.  BYA 5:8; Gen. Conf., 7 Oct. 1866


And:

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Orson Pratt:
So in regard to the revelation on plurality; it was only a short time after Joseph's death that we published it, having a copy thereof.  But what became of the original?  An apostate destroyed it; you have heard her name.  That same woman, in destroying the original, thought she had destroyed the revelation from the face of the earth.  She was embittered against Joseph, her husband, and at times fought against him with all her heart; and then again she would break down in her feelings, and humble herself before God and call upon His holy name, and would then lead forth ladies and place their hands in the hands of Joseph, and they were married to him according to the law of God.  That same woman has brought up her children to believe that no such thing as plurality of wives existed in the days of Joseph, and has instilled the bitterest principles of apostacy into their minds, to fight against the Church that has come to these mountains according to the predictions of Joseph.  JD13:194


I have read that Emma took the original from Joseph, asked if it was the revelation about plural marriage, and when he confirmed it, she immediately walked to the fire and threw it in. Joseph hadn't told her that he had made copies of it that very day.

NightHawk



22nd Feb, 2004 - 8:31pm / Post ID: #

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Nighthawk, that first post from Brigham might be good for the thread we have on Emma here. I have a question that just came into my mind, I am sure I have read it before, but since it is a long time ago and we have not yet discussed it I think it is adequate to do so now...

What happened to those who had taken on wives and were then asked to stop?

I am sure that many of the brake away sects we have today come from this... think about it. I am sure they might have put up boundaries in trying to keep the law and then after getting used to it (just when strong relationships were formed) they were asked to stop. Must have been heartbreaking for many, more especially for the children.

I wonder if this idea would have worked...

Instead of saying stop altogether why not allow some to continue if they moved to a country that DID allow it? Probably it would be too hard to police?




 
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