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Mormon doctrine on polygamy Mormon Doctrine on Plural Marriage - This Thread goes deep into all the angles of Mormon Polygamy, the requirement of Celestial Marriage which once encompassed Plural Marriage and the current standing of it with the modern Church. Also deeply analyzed is Joseph Smith's secret practise of it that latter lead to his death. Controversial Mormon Issue.
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24th Feb, 2004 - 12:29pm / Post ID: #

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"More than a century ago God clearly revealed unto His prophet Wilford Woodruff that the practice of plural marriage should be discontinued, which means that it is now against the law of God. Even in countries where civil or religious law allows polygamy, the Church teaches that marriage must be monogamous and does not accept into its membership those practicing plural marriage."

(Gordon B. Hinckley, "What Are People Asking about Us?" Ensign, Nov. 1998, 70)

Just because the practise of polygamy was discontinued because was not in harmony with the law of the land, does it means in your opinion that is against the law of God?.



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24th Feb, 2004 - 2:07pm / Post ID: #

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That quote got me thinking about this...

In a country where having a plural relationship is perfectly legal and common, and a man has several wives and several children with each wife and they all live in happiness and peace and the man comes across the Gospel, what would the Church tell him? That he would have to choose one wife and abandon the rest?



24th Feb, 2004 - 2:15pm / Post ID: #

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Yes, it is a double standard to me and the reason I said this is that if he issued the second Manifesto in 1904 saying any person involved in Plural Marriage could be excommunicated and he was living with his other wives sounds like one thing was told to the brethren in public and other thing was being 'practised' in the private life. (Specially the Firsy Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve).


If he was just living with his wives I see no problem. If he married more, then I have a problem. I do not believe the Church ever said those who had already entered into plural marriage needed to leave their wives and children, but that no more plural marriages would be sanctioned going forward.

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Just because the practise of polygamy was discontinued because was not in harmony with the law of the land, does it means in your opinion that is against the law of God?.


The quote you listed doesn't say it is against the Law of God because it is against the law of the land. It says it is against the Law of God because God told his people to stop practicing it. This, in fact, is what I believe as well, it is against the law of God on Earth because we have been told no longer to practice it by his prophet(s). The prophets are the ones who bring us God's law.

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In a country where having a plural relationship is perfectly legal and common, and a man has several wives and several children with each wife and they all live in happiness and peace and the man comes across the Gospel, what would the Church tell him? That he would have to choose one wife and abandon the rest?


In fact, this is a problem for the Church in certain parts of the world. In South Africa there are certain tribes that practice polygamy and they are not accepted into the gospel while living polygamously. What I don't know is if they practice polygamy in full accordance with the law and have valid legal civil marriages to each wife or if they just take these women as their wives in some tribal ceremony.



24th Feb, 2004 - 2:49pm / Post ID: #

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I was not even thinking tribal since the Nation of Islam make this a regular practise and they are hundreds of million strong - that would most definitely be a barrier. I guess the Church does not want members building a 'new' Zion in a country either just so they can have more than one wife, but anyway the question still stands...

In a country where having a plural relationship is perfectly legal and common, and a man has several wives and several children with each wife and they all live in happiness and peace and the man comes across the Gospel, what would the Church tell him? That he would have to choose one wife and abandon the rest?



24th Feb, 2004 - 4:50pm / Post ID: #

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If he was just living with his wives I see no problem. If he married more, then I have a problem


He married at least one more that I know of after the Manifesto.

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In a country where having a plural relationship is perfectly legal and common, and a man has several wives and several children with each wife and they all live in happiness and peace and the man comes across the Gospel, what would the Church tell him? That he would have to choose one wife and abandon the rest?


Wow, I don't know the answer for this question JB. undecided.gif



11th Mar, 2004 - 2:31pm / Post ID: #

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In a country where having a plural relationship is perfectly legal and common, and a man has several wives and several children with each wife and they all live in happiness and peace and the man comes across the Gospel, what would the Church tell him? That he would have to choose one wife and abandon the rest?


In old testament times, when the Jews married outside of the covenant, and later repented, they were instructed to put away their wives.

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2 And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing.

3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.  Ezra 10:2-3



10 And Ezra the priest stood up, and said unto them, Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange awives, to increase the trespass of Israel.

11 Now therefore make aconfession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and bseparate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives.

12 Then all the congregation answered and said with a loud voice, As thou hast said, so must we do.  Ezra 10:10-12


Further discussion with my South African friend atkinr tells me that in South Africa, if someone with more than one wife wants to join the Church, they must also "put away" their "extra" wives, but they must also continue to provide for them and their children financially. They just can't live with more than one wife. Perhaps if he gets back to this forum again in the near future, he can elaborate on this, since I am just relaying what he said to me second hand.

It does appear though, from a gospel historical point, that it wouldn't be unheard of to demand such action.




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11th Mar, 2004 - 5:43pm / Post ID: #

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They just can't live with more than one wife.

I am sure that must be incredibly difficult to enforce. It is one thing when no one has 'known' this way of life, but now that they 'know' it brings in a whole new level of temptation.



16th Mar, 2004 - 7:55pm / Post ID: #

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While we have had extensive discussions here about polygamy, there haven't been a lot of examples about what life is like for polygamists. Here is a link to an article in the Salt Lake Tribune about a very successful polygamist group. I think you will all enjoy it.

NightHawk




 
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