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Buggeyes, thanks for your explanation, I see what you are getting at, like you said it is a matter of interpretation and one has to wonder if this is the interpretation used by Joseph since he is "the holy anointing" referred to in the verse. The Church uses very general terms when discussing these things, but I am sure more can be had among the workers of the temple.

Of the verses above we read 'but when we come to read the passage it shows that a plurality of husbands is wrong', this puts to rest an earlier question that it may be possible that we will discover that it could be reversed (one woman - many husbands).

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I debated whether to put these comments here or under the Mother in Heaven thread, but it really belongs here. In the other thread, Nighthawk referred to a vision Mosiah Hancock had of the Spirit World. Among other things, he learned that there were no female spirits who followed Satan. All those who did not keep their first estate were men.

That knowledge brings up some interesting conclusions regarding Polygamy. First off, it is important to know this is entirely speculation. The First Presidency has never adopted this idea as doctrine. But if true, we must consider the following:

One third of all God's children rebelled and were not allowed to come to Earth as mortals. So, how many are we talking about? When you take into account all who have come to Earth, all who are here now and all who are yet to come, there is a staggering amount of spirits destined for this planet. Now when you consider the 1,000 year millenium where there will be no wars, no famine, no disease....populations will multiply like never before. Mothers will not kill their unborn babies and will likely have large families. None of this 2 or 3 kids stuff. It therefore is reasonable to conclude there may easily be 50 billion spirits who will come to this Earth as mortal men and women. Now, if one third of all spirits rebelled, this would mean 25 billion did not keep their first estate, 50 billion did for a total of 75 billion spirits originally destined for this Earth. And, if Bro. Hancock is correct, all 25 billion of those who fell were male.

Assuming a near even ratio of men to women, we have about 37 billion of each. But, 25 billion of the men rebelled, which means 37 billion women are coming to Earth and only 12 billion men. Now, throughout the 6,000 years of the Earth's history, the amount of men and women coming down has been close to even. Which means, there is a tremendous unbalance left in the pre mortal world. Many, many more women left there than men. It is pheasible that we are running out of male spirits left to come to Earth.

Could this be the very reason Polygamy was instituted in the first place? God knew that soon he would half to start sending down many more women than men and when these women reached adulthood, Polygamy would need to be practiced. So, it appears that during the millenium, many more women will need to be born than men as a result of the inventory of remaining spirits in the pre mortal world. Could this be why Isaiah said seven women will hold to one man, because of the tremendous inbalance between men and women left to come to Earth?

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Interesting theory, but that is all that it is for now. I want to say two things with regards to this topic:

1. What is practised already in the Celestial world we are asked to do here, or in other words this was already in motion long before any falling away, so if that theory were correct then male spirits would have been repeating this cycle eternally. What is to say that Father only has 'x' amount of male and female spirits - it is just one of those things we will have to wait til the next dispensation to learn about.

2. Keep in mind that there are millions and millions of children that die each year through abortion, abuse, kidnappings, etc. A lot of them do not attain the age of marriage. In certain countries the parents secretly 'get rid' of a baby if they discover its a girl. Another thing... men go to war, men have died by the millions over the centuries thus depleting the male population constantly.

Lastly, one of the things we can start discussing is this... I believe that during the Millennium plurality of marriage will be reinstituted. For one, the Millennium is a period to prepare mankind to receive all the ordinances necessary for Exaltation, something a single woman cannot have if she misses being Sealed, and since there will be so few worthy Priesthood holders that can actually enter the Temple... well the rest is understood.

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I know this is only Bruce R. Mc Conkie's thoughts but....:


"Obviously the holy practice (refering to Plural Marriage) will commence again after the Second Coming of the Son of Man and the ushering in of the millenium." (Mormon Doctrine, p. 578).

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It is easier on the ears of the membership to say that plural marriage will be practiced after Christ comes. If Bruce had said it was going to be practiced before Christ comes, a lot of people would start to get figdety.

Considering our current state of affairs in the USA (gay "marriage" being allowed in one State,) it is a hop, skip and a jump from there to the legalization of plural marriage. When that happens, I wonder what will our church leaders will do?...

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Buggeyes, yes we were discussing this else where on the Mature LDS board and we think this is what will cause the great divide in the Church, however we must consider that just because the change is made in the USA does not mean that other countries will accept it, so what then?

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Many countries already accept plural marriage. The middle east is a prime example. Also, many european countries are beginning to allow gay marriage as well as Canada, so I think as buggeyes said, it is only a matter of time before plural marriage will be allowed. Then, it will be interesting to see what happens. For example, what if their is no new revelation reinstated plural marriage, will that cause some to leave the Church over the issue because they believe it should be instituted?

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I could easily see people leaving the church over that, both ways.

And I agree with tenaheff, the US is really the least liberal country when it comes to unions between people. In several countries in europe 'unmarried domestic partner' is an official state of existance, you get tax cuts for it and so forth. So it shouldn't be too long before plural marriage is accepted and legalized all over the world.