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There is a part of this story that is missing?. I cannot believe someone who was allowed to be baptized with the aproval of the Church HQ, could not gain full membership from an Are President, also, I cannot believe that just because he believes that Plural Marriage is true, necessary for exaltation and will be restored (as I personally think too) he cannot become a member again. Is something missing here Nighthawk?.

I have read several accounts of these plural wives and yes, they said they felt very lonely, specially raising their children. Some of them 'sound' very depressed indeed.

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Tenaheff, I had linked to the story earlier in this topic, and now I find that it has expired, and you have to pay the Salt Lake Tribune to get it.

The only thing that I know of that is missing from the story is the name of the Area President. He was personally responsible for many excommunications, and for defining Church policy to the effect that any member who home-schooled their children was suspect, and could be subject to church discipline for that simple fact.

Since the author I know believes in, researches, and writes about, the "setting in order" of the Church just prior to the great tribulations, this is probably the "justification" of the continued excommunication.

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Oh I see, so he then somehow 'teaches' this doctrine but even then, if he writes about Plural Marriage saying is necessary for exaltation and so on, there is no really ground for excommunication. You will understand that it is very hard to believe that an Area President could be 'responsible' for many excommunications for silliness as putting people in the disciplinary action for home schooling children, because along the way, somebody who has brains can figure out and contact the First Presidency about it and if enough people complain, I bet the guy will be investigated. Anyhow, what is the status of the guy in the Church now? is he a member?.
Sometimes I wonder if I decide to write a book about Plural Marriage how the Church would react about it....

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Well, if he is teaching that plural marriage while living on the earth today is necessary for exaltation, that could be a problem. The Church clearly teaches that this isn't so.

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I understand, what about if he is writing about plural marriage being necessary for exaltation and that we may live it again after Christ comes? Can the Church has something against that?.

Offtopic but, I think with the kind of topics we talk in the LDS deep doctrine section, more than one of us would be call for an interview with the Bishop

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Actually, I know quite a bit about this particular Area President. He no longer serves in that capacity.

I read an extensive talk by him, in the early 1990s. He really did proclaim that home-schooling was a suspect activity, and could bring about church discipline. He railed against three types of members:
- extra spiritual
- extra patriotic
- extra intellectual

He laid out a lot of specifics, and bragged about how he had purged the church of many of these people.

What is interesting is that his specific complaints all applied to various General Authorities, at various times.

The author I am talking about teaches that plural marriage is necessary for exaltation, and that it will be practiced within the church again. He also teaches that there will be a "setting in order" of the church, wherein the Lord will completely change the direction that the church has been taking, including this particular practice and an establishment of a "kingdom of God" outside of the Church structure.

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I think this is what the Church has a problem about, not so much about Plural Marriage. He seems to be taking the place of a Prophet.

Aren't most Area Presidents, members of the Quorum of the Seventies, or in other words, general authorities?.

Now going back to the subject I was thinking, we always talk about that we will live the doctrine of Plural Marriage again, but how is going to be decided how many wives a husband will have and who will choose those wives?. Also, since Joseph Smith got married to already married women, is it mean that some men will be sealed up to already married women, too?.

Edited: LDS_forever on 21st Jul, 2004 - 11:46am

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I'm sure that this is what is barring him. He certainly isn't trying to take the place of the Prophet, he only expounds what he has thoroughly researched, in real histories and resources.

Yes. That is one of the things that was so strange about his rant. One person that I know was very concerned when she read his talk, because she was homeschooling her children. Since she knew Elder Wells personally, she called him and asked if she was "out of order with the Church" as this Area President had proclaimed. Elder Wells assured her that if she was, so was he, as he was homeschooled. In other words, not to worry about it.

Many of his statements applied to various General Authorities, especially President Benson.

I think it will be up to the family involved to answer both of those questions. From what I understand, the most successful plural marriage families are ones where the wives approach the husband, and convince him to accept another wife into the family.

I don't think so. I think that there was a specific reason for that practice, including the fact that not all that not even Joseph Smith had all that good an understanding of the purpose and function of sealings.

For example, my sister, who has done a lot of genealogical research, told me that Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner was sealed to Joseph Smith specifically because her husband was a leader in the anti-Mormon movement, so there was no way that she would be sealed to her husband (whether Joseph used this logic or the Lord did, I don't know). I know that from her autobiography, she said that angels were involved in both Joseph's proposal, and her acceptance.



Edited: Nighthawk on 21st Jul, 2004 - 12:19pm