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But the point is always the same, I don't think the problem is that he shares what he has researched through the years, the problem is when he writes it as 'fact' rather than his opinion, there isa huge difference between both of them.

I read a quiet a bit about her history, so then is not true that her husband was a good friend of the Church?. That's what I read. Or did he became bitter after Joseph Smith took Mary as his own wife?.

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My understanding has always been that a willingness to participate was necessary but not all members would be called to live it. In fact, I was under the distinct impression that the percentage of church members who had plural wives was relatively small even when the Church did observe this practice. So, to me that would mean that plural marriage isn't necessary for exaltation. Rather, a willingness to do whatever the Lords asks. So, if he wants us to practice plural marriage, we must, if he doesn't we can still be exalted.

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That was also my understanding, but my sister insists that Mr. Lightner was an avowed enemy of the Church (although he may have been friendly towards individual members).

This is one of the largest areas of confusion and discussion concerning this practice. Yes, only about 10% of the members lived the practice, just like less than 10% of the current membership obeys the commandments to have food storage or attend the temple.

Brigham Young, John Taylor, and Wilford Woodruff, as well as the other GAs all taught specifically that no person will be exalted without this principle. One time, Brigham Young said that if a person fully embraced the principle (not just willing to live it), but was hindered from living it, that person would be justified. However, they all agreed, unanimously, that this is one of the foundational principles of the Celestial Kingdom, that nobody who doesn't live it will receive exaltation.

When it is allowed, I think that everyone is called to live it. Of course, as with any principle of the Gospel, not everyone heeds the commandments.

Edited: Nighthawk on 21st Jul, 2004 - 1:25pm

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Several times, we have had questions about the polyandrous nature of some of Joseph Smith's marriages. While reading through a blog entry this morning about FAIR (Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research), I ran across this in-depth research paper on the subject.

While I have only read a little bit of it so far, I thought that some of you might be interested in it.

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This would seem to refute the assertion that only members who had Church Leader's specific permission were allowed to live it. In fact, that often, they would be "called" to marry a particular individual in accordance with this principal.

To me, Brighams quote doesn't mean you have to have entered into a polygamous marriage to be exalted. To say you can't be exalted without the principal does not necessarily mean if you only have one wife while on this earth you can't be exalted. Many women will not have a husband while on this earth. We know they cannot be exalted without being sealed in the Temple. Still, the fact that they do not get sealed in their lifetime does not necessarily mean they won't be exalted.

Now, on another front of this discussion:

Here is a link to an internet article that suggests that the ruling that allows gay marriage in Massachusetts opens the door to polygamous marriage in Massachusetts as well.

https://www.pro-polygamy.com/articles.php?news=0012

Edited: tenaheff on 4th Aug, 2004 - 4:23pm

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After some more reading, I don't find that not everyone was "called" to live in polygamous marriages. What I have learned is that if a couple felt that the Lord was calling them to enter plural marriage, they would go through a process similar to a temple recommend interview. That is, talk to their Stake President, get a recommend for this action from him, then go and enter into the marriage.

I have read a few places that plural marriages were solemnized in many cases by the Stake Patriarch.

You are absolutely correct. But, he indicated that you would have to be fully willing to enter into a plural marriage, if it was possible.

From what I have been reading lately, there aren't all that many members who would be willing to do this. Mitt Romney and Orrin Hatch have both recently made statements to the effect that they hope plural marriage would never return. I have also seen quite a lot of hostility to the very concept within Utah, as well as here, in Michigan. Most people are just relieved that they don't even have to consider making the choice.

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Well, I hope it isn't reinstituted, as well. However, that doesn't mean I wouldn't be willing to enter into it if that is what I believed the Lord expected and wanted of or for me. So, just expressing the hope that it not be reinstituted doesn't mean you wouldn't be willing to live it.

I know many people who say they would not be willing to live this principal. However, I wonder, if when really presented with the fact that they must in order to be considered truly worthy as a saint for higher callings, Temple recommends or whatever, if they might not do what we have all been taught we should...Fast and pray to get an answer for ourselves.

The early saints were being actively taught the need for this principal (after Joseph Smith's death at least). I think, for most, it is really a non-issue so they really don't give it serious study and aren't really willing to seriously consider it. They just give you what they believe in their hearts today. I can't imagine being in a polygamous marriage. So, it might be easier for me to say I won't than to give it any thought.

The Church really doesn't encourage anyone to give it any thought either.

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What year are we talking about?

Well maybe Orrin Hatch and others are not neccesarly expressing their true feelings but more like a political statement and chaos that could be created because of it.

May I ask why not?.

Maybe because they don't want to scare people away but the truth is that Celestial Marriage is Plural Marriage.