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Mormon doctrine on polygamy Mormon Doctrine on Plural Marriage - This Thread goes deep into all the angles of Mormon Polygamy, the requirement of Celestial Marriage which once encompassed Plural Marriage and the current standing of it with the modern Church. Also deeply analyzed is Joseph Smith's secret practise of it that latter lead to his death. Controversial Mormon Issue.
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12th Nov, 2004 - 2:36am / Post ID: #

Plural Marriage: In That Day Seven Women Shall... - Page 41

Which is essentially what's happened - we've stopped practicing that doctrine through cessation of teaching. Our early leaders weren't forced to divorce or "put aside" any of their wives, and although some of the men were fugitives for quite some time after, there was no requirement to dissolve any of the unions. Unless I'm wrong about that? I hadn't read anywhere where that was required.

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12th Nov, 2004 - 1:39pm / Post ID: #

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Farseer, there is so much information and because of the Manifesto itself not all the brothers followed it or they misintrepreted, including Church Presidents. Here is a little information about plural marriages after the Manifesto and whether it meant not new plural marriages or coexisting ones.

https://www.ldshistory.net/pc/postman.htm



Post Date: 13th Dec, 2004 - 4:51pm / Post ID: #

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Ether 7: 1-2

1 And it came to pass that Orihah did execute judgment upon the land in righteousness all his days, whose days were exceedingly many.

2 And he begat sons and daughters; yea, he begat thirty and one, among whom were twenty and three sons.

I posted the above scripture to bring up a point. Some critics have proposed that Joseph Smith invented polygamy for his own desires and that it was not part of the Book of Mormon doctrine. They quote Jacob where he says each man should have but one wife. Well, the above scripture seems to indicate polygamy was practiced among the Jaredites and it was not considered wicked because it says Orihah was righeous all his days. Now it does not specifically say he had more than one wife but if he begat 31 children, one would have to conclude he indeed had more than one wife.

3rd Mar, 2005 - 10:59pm / Post ID: #

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Here is a point of view on this subject. It is reportedly published in the St. George Spectrum on March 3, 2005. You can read it all here (you may have to join the e-group to read it).

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Before you condemn polygamy, realize this

Polly Hammon
Guest Editorial
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Before you ask me to give up my lifestyle, show me that yours works. Show me that a monogamist marriage is sacred, that it works for at least a lifetime. Currently, more than 60 percent don't. Show me children who don't fret and worry about "if" and "when" their family will be torn apart.

Show me the strength and support of families. Show me homes filled with the wisdom of the aged, not institutions littered with the lonely and the heartbroken, or show me hallways of hospitals lined with family and friends to celebrate glad tidings or to walk with sorrows. Show me places of safety where I can educate my children, not schoolyards of the alienated and the abandoned. Show me children raised in the stability of family, not the sterility of daycare.

Show me heroes made of sterner stuff than what it takes to dunk a basketball or throw a touchdown. Show me the nightly news without a rundown on the latest from a society obsessed with who is cheating on whom or a marriage commitment that is measured in hours.

Show me women who are not yearning after an illusion created by Hollywood - who are not anxious about the natural progression of life, who don't fear that each change or wrinkle is a marker of possible abandonment. Show me a society so happy with its choices and fulfilled from living those choices that it hasn't medicated itself for depression and struggles with addiction.


Show me these things so that I may worry less about you and that I may know you have some of the joy I've known. As for the principles I strive to live by, I love how the living of them invites me to live on a higher plane. If I were to abandon them, how would I greet Mother Sarah or Father Abraham, the Prophet Joseph Smith and
countless others? How can I betray my God?

Polly Hammon is a resident of Centennial Park, Ariz.
Originally published March 3, 2005



3rd Mar, 2005 - 11:11pm / Post ID: #

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The argument is very one sided and could be used conversely to show the same for current pluralist relationships. One could also easily say that if you cannot even handle one spouse how could you handle three? By the way, can you verify the St. George Spectrum is either biased / neutral to this topic and why they chose to publish it?

On another note, let us say Plural marriage were still in practise by the Church - I wonder what would entitle to man to take on more wives? Could you imagine... may a special Plural Marriage interview / recommend? Would it be something only in practise by the 'higher-ups'?

On another point, is Plural Marriage being currently practised on the other side to those who await the resurrection? Only to those who are sealed such in the temple.



4th Mar, 2005 - 2:14am / Post ID: #

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As far as I can tell, the Spectrum is simply a normal, small-town newspaper. It appears that they only put some of their newspaper articles online, and they have a pay-as-you-go archive retrieval system online. I don't know anything about their bias. The only thing I can say about their having published the article is that it was a guest commentary, because of the fact that several polygamous enclaves are relatively near St. George, so it is probably a frequently discussed subject in the area.

Of course the argument is one-sided. The argument put forth by the Church is extremely one-sided, as are the arguments put forth by the State of Utah, along with all the "mainstream" anti-polygamy groups that are normally quoted by most of the Utah newspapers.

According to my understanding of how plural marriage was practiced, the Stake Patriarch had the authority to recommend a plural marriage. With all the procedures and red tape we have now, I imagine it would take a General Authority to sign the recommend.

Plural marriage is practiced NOW in the Church. But only for those who have died, since the Church can't come under condemnation from society for such a thing.

If a man's wife dies, to whom he is sealed, he can get sealed to another woman, in this life. Both marriages are valid in the spirit world. If a man who has died had more than one wife (the first one died, etc), then he can be, and is, sealed to all of the women to whom he was married. So, plural marriage appears to be practiced in the spirit world, at least in my opinion. No marriage is solemnized in the spirit world without it being done in the temple, by proxy.



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4th Mar, 2005 - 2:24am / Post ID: #

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Plural marriage is practiced NOW in the Church. But only for those who have died, since the Church can't come under condemnation from society for such a thing.

You will never get any Leader to state it like that although I have publicly in EQ when someone asked. As for not coming under condemnation - well let us see... no one has raised (at least not to the magnitude of action) the issue, but maybe they will in the future and then another policy or restriction will be placed for that too.

As for the Spirit World, my point there was if they currently act the part or must wait until the resurrection to be considered in a Plural Marriage since it may be based on worthiness / state of the soul. I also wonder if someone who was in a common law relationship could request to be married to someone who has passed on? What if they were already married before and then went to a common law relationship?



4th Mar, 2005 - 2:41am / Post ID: #

Plural Marriage That Day Women Shall... Mormon Doctrine Studies - Page 41

Actually, I have seen it phrased that way by various people, including seminary teachers, BYU teachers, and local authorities. You are probably right, no GA is going to state it like that, since most members consider any hint of plural marriage to be the height of immorality, at least as bad as adultery.

As far as how people deal with relationships in the spirit world, anything about that is pure speculation, as nothing has ever been made public about that, except for vague statements that people are the same there as they are here. Anyone who does have an answer on that subject would not be sharing that answer with anyone else, unless the Holy Ghost specifically tells them to do so, and I think that would only happen if the Lord had proven the person to be careful with His mysteries.




 
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