Polygamy has been the top news story here in the Phoenix area the last few days. Arizona and Utah officials are meeting in St. George to try and come to an agreement on how to handle the problem. It's been a big topic on radio talk shows with most people agreeing the it is a personal choice and the government shouldn't butt in as long as it is not involving minors, which it is. So the consenses is, let the adults do as they please as long as they don't involve the children. Here is an article from today's AZ Republic:
https://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/n...lygamy04ON.html
Also, there appears to be a growing support for polygamy among the general Christian population.
https://www.polygamy.net
The following is a real ad that I received in an LDS Related nwsletter and I thought it would be interesting to post here:
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"Polygamy is no laughing matter . . . but laughter helps us heal." -- Former polygamist wife Please join us for the first-ever fundraiser for Tapestry Against Polygamy, a nonprofit that helps people escape the abuses of polygamy. We will gather at Cactus & Tropicals (2735 S. 2000 E. in SLC) on Saturday, April 2, at 6:30 p.m. for an evening of light-hearted fun with the Sister-Wives Band, a polygamy buffet, Polygamy Porter beer, and the world-premiere reading of a one-act play, "The Brother-Husbands," by Kim Burgess and with a celebrity cast, including Utah icon Pat Bagley! Tickets are $40 general admission or $15 for students (21+), seniors, and low-income. Sponsored by Utah NOW, CodePink, UpNet, JEDI Women, PIN, and the Rape Recovery Center. |
I know something of "Tapestry Against Polygamy". As with any organization devoted to opposition to something, they tend to be very narrow in their vision, very dogmatic, and quite insulting at times.
The event does sound kind of fun and lighthearted, but at the same time it is mocking some peoples' very sacred beliefs.
Tapestry believes that all polygamy is evil, that all women in all polygamous marriages are severly oppressed, and that all children in polygamous marriages are abused in various ways. (At least as far as I can see.)
Tapestry has been involved directly in attempts to lure children away from their families into the hands of government authorities in southern Utah.
Obviously, I don't like Tapestry Against Polygamy very much. I sympathize with them, because some of the women in it did come out of bad polygamous marriages. However, from what I understand, there is statistically no more incidence of abuse and oppression in polygamous marriages than in monogamous marriages. The only difference is that when a man is abusive in a polygamous marriage, he may have access to more people to be abusive towards.
My wife and I were discussing this topic tonight and we were thinking... how many people in your Ward or Branch could read this thread and remain positive? In this word 'remain' I mean leave this thread without even questioning or shunning it as an apostate set of rants.
We were also discussing if there are any signs that indicate a reintroduction of Plural Marriage and as far as I can see - it does not seem to be happening, especially with the recent adamant statements made by the Church against all those who practise or sympathize with such groups.
I don't think any of the people I know well in my ward would be able to remain positive after reading this thread. I have found it difficult, and I think I am more tolerant of the concept of polygamy than most of my friends.
I don't think it is all just rantings by apostates though. In fact, I don't consider any of you apostates and I certainly don't consider myself one either.
I don't see anything wrong with discussing the topic of polygamy past and perhaps future in the Church. I have trouble sometimes with the critisms I read about why the Church doesn't practice it now. Sometimes that makes me a bit uncomfortable, but I think people should be free to discuss such things without being labled an apostate.
I think the great thing about this board on this forum is that it gives people an opportunity to explore ideas and doctrine and scripture in different ways, while still abiding church guidelines. We're not preaching to or teaching people to practice polygamy, we're simply exploring the doctrine and history of the church. From my point of view, that's not apostate; it's learning. People from all walks of life have different views on this topic, but I don't see any harm in what we're doing here -- I view it as positive.
This particular topic may be controversial now, but it was controversial when it was being practiced in the 1800's. There isn't anything new about the intense feelings stirred up when discussing or reading about polygamy.
From the last two responses I gather that maybe I did not explain myself well enough. I am not asking for an evaluation of whether we should discuss this topic here or if we are apostate for doing so... quite the contrary... I already know what we are about here, after all this is the LDS Mature Board - we are passed all of that... here it is again:
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...how many people in your Ward or Branch could read this thread and remain positive? In this word 'remain' I mean leave this thread without even questioning or shunning it as an apostate set of rants. |
What I tried to say (and not very well, apparently) was that while this is a controversial topic, I view our discussion of it as positive - which is the opinion I would expect from most other people. There will always be those who are closed-minded, no matter what the topic is, but I think anyone open to learning would not be offended.
As far as the church returning to polygamy? I doubt it, at least not anytime soon. There has been a definite "stance" on that issue for a long long time now, and I think the Brethren will continue to distance the church from it as much as possible.